thanks i got the orinos back in june of 08 when they were like an inch long or so and they were labeled as tems. at this one lfs i go to and like the last batch of pbass they got looked to be orions just cuz they looked like mine when i bought them and didnt look like the monos when i bought them. my buddy bought 3 of them and lost one and they r showing the gold around the stripe/spot.