Thanks, got it at 8" from Shark Aquarium a while ago. Started it on live goldfish-live shiners-frozen smelt and now frozen sardines. During summer live sunnies. Currently in 220gal with tarpons,koi, and pickerel. Was waiting for it to get big enough to put it in with my Dorados, Datnoid and Brycon cephalus but then Sandy struck. Water change once a week, meleflix and primaflix.