I think there are similarities......but, I think ATF's building blocks are more refined, intramuscular, bone structure, these things take time to build up the type of resilience to rock out in the type of water these things are caught in when you take them out of it. That muddy nightmare current is INSANE. The water in South America is a fraction of the aggression. You take a wild fish out of that water in Africa and you put it in a nice clean, calm, quiet tank, and they aren't fighting for their lives anymore building constant muscle strength, Armatus wouldn't last 5 minutes in that water. I'll bet ATF grow that fast in their own water pushing 3G's all day and night.