Upside down rtc?

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twistr71

Gambusia
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Nov 20, 2011
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Was gone for a few days
Came back my rtc was upside down and slightly bent
Laying on bottom
Flipped him over
Came back later upside down again
Water was off

Ph was Low and ammonia high
Got that under control
Still no change
Any ideas?
 
Was gone for a few days
Came back my rtc was upside down and slightly bent
Laying on bottom
Flipped him over
Came back later upside down again
Water was off

Ph was Low and ammonia high
Got that under control
Still no change
Any ideas?

Forgot other fish in tank are fine
 
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If the ammonia was high, the other tank mates could not have been fine.

If the RTC was the largest, it can be explainable. No running water = little or no oxygen. The largest fish have the highest DO demand. They often go first. RTCs are also a bit dumb IME not always coming up to the surface to breath more aerated water.

Not enough oxygen = brain damage (brain is starved of oxygen), then death. Even if it comes to, the brain damage is usually irreversible. One of the symptoms is the fish cannot tell up from down or any sense of direction.

Ammonia alone if it was less than 4-8 ppm, would not kill so fast.

If pH crashed and the rtc went into shock, it may recover.
 
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Looks better tonite
He is in a 180 gal tank w\ 40 gal sump and a large canister filter
Aerator running continuously
He is about 18in long
Also a hybrid shovelnose(18in) and a med size Oscar
Will keep doing water changes and checking chemistry
 
I have had a redtail in a cycling tank and if i frogot to do a wc every day (happend 3 times) he would be gloating at the top and after the wc he would get back to normal. I think clean water will cause your redtail to get better, but watch out for his eyes getting cloudy because that can make his eyes cloudy forever and is caused by bad water conditions.
 
Sounds like brain damage to me. The symptoms can be intermittent but the damage is permanent and the eventual demise from it is likely, sooner or later.
 
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