Got'ta sale'em now, one 6" vatf. & three 4-5.3" gatf. all in great shape, not too thin, frisky and alert, eating chopped earthworms and krill. I've over extended myself, and must part with a few specimens, an absolute bargain for who so'ever buys them. Asking $90.00 for the vatf. and $205.00 to $245.00 for the gatf. located in Baldwin Park, Ca. pm if enterested. For pics go to my photo album, and you'll see two of them, a vatf. & a gatf. Boy, what a bargain!!