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is it possible to have an enclosure in my basement with a variety of reptiles, and or exotics.. any ideas? like i was thinking having trees with snakes, lizards a small pond of fish.... turtles..frogs? i dono... i drank to much coffee and the caffiene is making me think... would that turn into a disaster? or would it work with some animals??
 
anything can be done with the right amount of money.
 
You could create a mini ecosystem if you wanted. What I personally was looking at doing was getting a good sized tank. Getting a bunch of compatible Dart Frogs, a GTP or Emerald Tree Boa, some hatchetfish and tetras, and maybe some anoles or a Day Gecko. Just make sure that you don't mix species of snake that will eat the other inhabitants and vice versa with lizards, etc. Alot of people will say that it wont work, but if you choose the inhabitants carefully, plan it to give everyone enough hiding places, and add the biggest species last you should be fine, and make sure you keep an eye on it to make sure that everyone behaves:) . You wont know until you try it right? GL
 
---XR---;791762; said:
anything can be done with the right amount of money.

True. He could definitely create the environment, but as far as mixing a bunch of different herps together, that's a bad idea. If he has the money, something like this would be fantastic for a green iguana, or a pair of large monitors. And he could still have a pond with fish in it.
 
i would do it with inexpensive reptiles and amphibians but it can be done
 
Lol Kobi.. most snakes and anphibians wont go well.
want to start a...
is it possible to have an enclosure in my basement with a variety of reptiles, and or exotics.. any ideas? like i was thinking having trees with snakes, lizards a small pond of fish.... turtles..frogs? i dono... i drank to much coffee and the caffiene is making me think... would that turn into a disaster? or would it work with some animals??

Ok, In short No. But if you are willing to spend a great deal of time and money (every day even once its built..) than yes, of course you can. Green Iguanas are fabulous for this, as Ophiuchus said, however you would need to read up about iguanas as they will not be the tamest of animals and will charge you in their terrotory. Small fish in a pond? What are you thinking Kobi lol.. if you want a good rainforest theme, why not go the whole way? If you have the money (and of course.. space) you could have clownknife fish, arrows, maybe a couple of pacu in an extremely large pond. No rays though.. because green iguanas can AND will swim. The good thing about this is that green iguanas are vegatarian. You could also have large tropical tortoises (I have kept iguanas with tortoises before with no ill effects) though you will of course have to make sure they cannot get into the pond and drown. You could also have turtles though I know these can be aggressive and am not sure whether they will take a bite at anything in the water. Green tree frogs would probably be your best option, I wouldnt suggest any poison dart/arrow frogs until a later date, and you know how all these animals react together, because I know the odd tortoise will pick at a frog (strange but true) and there they are, poisoned. To be honest, your better off at suggesting what you absolutely must have in this kind of setup first hand, then I can give you more advice about what could be done, requirements, and campanions. If you want, pm me or email me :)
 
Jessica Dring;796441; said:
Lol Kobi.. most snakes and anphibians wont go well.
want to start a...
is it possible to have an enclosure in my basement with a variety of reptiles, and or exotics.. any ideas? like i was thinking having trees with snakes, lizards a small pond of fish.... turtles..frogs? i dono... i drank to much coffee and the caffiene is making me think... would that turn into a disaster? or would it work with some animals??

Ok, In short No. But if you are willing to spend a great deal of time and money (every day even once its built..) than yes, of course you can. Green Iguanas are fabulous for this, as Ophiuchus said, however you would need to read up about iguanas as they will not be the tamest of animals and will charge you in their terrotory. Small fish in a pond? What are you thinking Kobi lol.. if you want a good rainforest theme, why not go the whole way? If you have the money (and of course.. space) you could have clownknife fish, arrows, maybe a couple of pacu in an extremely large pond. No rays though.. because green iguanas can AND will swim. The good thing about this is that green iguanas are vegatarian. You could also have large tropical tortoises (I have kept iguanas with tortoises before with no ill effects) though you will of course have to make sure they cannot get into the pond and drown. You could also have turtles though I know these can be aggressive and am not sure whether they will take a bite at anything in the water. Green tree frogs would probably be your best option, I wouldnt suggest any poison dart/arrow frogs until a later date, and you know how all these animals react together, because I know the odd tortoise will pick at a frog (strange but true) and there they are, poisoned. To be honest, your better off at suggesting what you absolutely must have in this kind of setup first hand, then I can give you more advice about what could be done, requirements, and campanions. If you want, pm me or email me :)

IMO a Green Tree Python would be perfectly fine with dart frogs because a 6 foot snake wouldn't eat a 2 inch frog unless it was starving and second Green Tree Pythons spend almost all of their time in the trees and when they strike they strike with 2/3 of their body and the other 1/3 holds them to their branch, so as long as the cage is tall enough the GTP wont get any of the frogs. Not to mention the fact that GTPs' are nocturnal. No poison Dart Frogs are not poisonous in captivity because they get their toxin from a plant that they feed on in the wild, and if you get a CB Dart Frog you will not have to worry about this at all. I do agree with you on the larger fish w/ the iguana that's a great Idea, but he would need a Very large cage if he wanted to keep aros, Knifefish, and especially the iguana. He has the smaller cage ecosystem with my idea and the large ecosystem w/ you and Ophiuchus's idea.
 
I didnt pecifically mean gtp but the thing you have to remember here is all these animals are unpredictable.. you just never no.. so what is the point risking an animal thats expensive.. well two! What plant is it that they get their poison from Kobi ?
And I thought he was planning the large type, as he was on about his whole basment. We have already said he would need a large pond for those fish. Poison dart forgs are really not diurnal or nocturnal so that comment about gtps being nocturanl is invalid sorry to say lol
Tbh your comment about a 6 foot tree python eating a frog.. well its awfully unusual to start off with a 6 foot snake now isnt it? Lol
Im not sure about this theory you use about frogs getting their poison from plants.. tribes use these frogs to poison the tips of their arrows.. wouldnt they simply use the plants.. a lot less risky for the tribes.
 
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