just wondering what natives can withstand temps up to 84*~86* i know sunfish and bullheads can but i don't know about smaller fish. i've got a 180g in the backyard that i'm debating setting up again and this summer w/ 110* weather the tank was only hitting the mid 80's during noon. i'm planning to fill it about halfway and do a kinda paladarium(sp?) with a floating island about 240 sq inches in size and a couple of smaller ones along with some reeds for a pair of bullfrogs or a trio of leopard frogs( which ever the petco tadpoles are) i think i can probably keep it under 82*~84* if i run some fans either over the tank or the sump but that would lead to some crazy evaporation.
warmer natives?
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I would be concerned of the temp shifts. When I was out in California it was freaking hot as hell during the day and cold as a witch's tit in a brass bra at night. A tank would fluctuate dramatically with that. Of course Im just basing on my observations from a very small section of CA.
i'm not sure about in the winter but this summer i had it running for about 2 months with just half a dozen mollies and the temps seemed to peak at 86* on a very hot day (112 irrc) and droped to about 80~79 in the early morning.
and ewurm is right, the lakes and rivers around here probably don't change more than ~5* all year but a realativly small tank(180g) will do so in a few hours and i'll be dealing with less water volume than before(about 100, maybe 120g) but i'll be running fans which will cool down the tank alot but make evaporation a ***** to keep up with. i'm thinking i might just get a 55g drum and a float valve to keep it from running dry.
and ewurm is right, the lakes and rivers around here probably don't change more than ~5* all year but a realativly small tank(180g) will do so in a few hours and i'll be dealing with less water volume than before(about 100, maybe 120g) but i'll be running fans which will cool down the tank alot but make evaporation a ***** to keep up with. i'm thinking i might just get a 55g drum and a float valve to keep it from running dry.
If you're very into native/cool water fish and you live in a very warm area, I'd recommend a chiller as well. It could be a big investment, but that's only if you're a native fanatic.
I believe a lot of killi fishes that pretty much live in the desert/seasonal flood plains can take on that kind of temperature.
I believe a lot of killi fishes that pretty much live in the desert/seasonal flood plains can take on that kind of temperature.
<They will die>
care to be more specific, i know most natives need really cold water but i know that there are some that will be ok at higher temps? i don't think any native i get is automatically doomed to die from over heating, i just need to find one that will be ok. i really don't think i need a chiller, a pair of 6" fans over the sump should be more than enough.
<i think a chiller would be much better in the situation. check out prices on them.>
i have before, everything i've ever seen for a tank my size costs in the neighborhood of atleast 500 bucks, more than i can afford at the moment, also they use A LOT of power and i'm try to use as little electricity as possible for this project(40w pump, 9 or 18w UV, maybe 20w in powerheads and another 20w in fans, no lights because it's outside) because i'm going to upgrade 2 other tanks in the near future and possibly start a nano reef and electricity here in cali is not cheap.
care to be more specific, i know most natives need really cold water but i know that there are some that will be ok at higher temps? i don't think any native i get is automatically doomed to die from over heating, i just need to find one that will be ok. i really don't think i need a chiller, a pair of 6" fans over the sump should be more than enough.
<i think a chiller would be much better in the situation. check out prices on them.>
i have before, everything i've ever seen for a tank my size costs in the neighborhood of atleast 500 bucks, more than i can afford at the moment, also they use A LOT of power and i'm try to use as little electricity as possible for this project(40w pump, 9 or 18w UV, maybe 20w in powerheads and another 20w in fans, no lights because it's outside) because i'm going to upgrade 2 other tanks in the near future and possibly start a nano reef and electricity here in cali is not cheap.