Water Change Question

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When I do water changes I have been using Prime and API Tap Water Conditioner. Question is do I need to use both or does Prime cover both? Thanks!
 
Prime covers everything. No need for both. :)
 
They are actually two very different formulas, that perform two very different tasks.

API is best used to detoxify chlorine treated tap water, as it is based on sodium thiosulfate. This is clear when you look at their SDS. http://apifishcare.com/pdfs/product...r/tap-water-conditioner-safety-data-sheet.pdf

Also, if you read API's directions, for chloramine they simply increase the dosage, to ensure the chlorine/ammonia bond in chloramine is broken. Fine for some set ups, and smaller water changes, not a good option for those with chloramine treated tap water, especially those folks that like to perform massive water changes.

Seachem Prime & Safe are best used to treat chloramine treated tap water, as both break the chlorine/ammonia bond, but also treat and detoxify the resulting free ammonia (NH3) that is left when that split takes place.

For those that simply have to deal with chlorine year round, then buying sodium thiosulfate in bulk is the most economical way to go. You can read more in the following sticky on this subject.


HTH
 
They are actually two very different formulas, that perform two very different tasks.

API is best used to detoxify chlorine treated tap water, as it is based on sodium thiosulfate. This is clear when you look at their SDS. http://apifishcare.com/pdfs/product...r/tap-water-conditioner-safety-data-sheet.pdf

Also, if you read API's directions, for chloramine they simply increase the dosage, to ensure the chlorine/ammonia bond in chloramine is broken. Fine for some set ups, and smaller water changes, not a good option for those with chloramine treated tap water, especially those folks that like to perform massive water changes.

Seachem Prime & Safe are best used to treat chloramine treated tap water, as both break the chlorine/ammonia bond, but also treat and detoxify the resulting free ammonia (NH3) that is left when that split takes place.

For those that simply have to deal with chlorine year round, then buying sodium thiosulfate in bulk is the most economical way to go. You can read more in the following sticky on this subject.


HTH

That was a great read, thanks RD. RD. One question, in the dosage for ammonia treatment, in that thread, instructions were to not overdose. I wondered if it would be (and how) bad, if someone dosed safe everyday or every other day for a mini or complete cycle. Will it build up and cause issue? Seachem says safe is not stable in liquid form as prime is. Does the recommendation of not overdosing comes for the initial state of safe (first 24-48 hours) or later.
 
Prime/Safe are reducing agents, and once ammonia is no longer available to reduce they will begin reducing oxygen. 02 depletion is the reason that one does not want to overdose, especially in tanks where 02 levels may be borderline low to begin with.
 
Prime/Safe are reducing agents, and once ammonia is no longer available to reduce they will begin reducing oxygen. 02 depletion is the reason that one does not want to overdose, especially in tanks where 02 levels may be borderline low to begin with.

Thank you, one more reason to add informed dose, especially for high temperature tank.

How long would it be active? I assume once they bind to either they stop.
 
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