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Dracofish

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I have a bit of a problem going on with my water that I can't figure out. The tank that my Leos are in has had a mature filtration system for years. I've never had any problems with water in the past and follow a water change schedule of 50% every few days.

This past Sunday I went and added a 1l container of Matrix bio-media by seachem to one of my canister filters. This filter had other mature bio-media already and water quality previous to this was just fine. However, a day after adding (also the day after a water change) ammonia readings have spiked. I just don't get it. No nitrite and the fish (thankfully) are acting completely normal. The Rays are scooting around like they always have the for the 5 years I've had them and nobody else is showing signs of ammonia poisoning. I do have lots of aeration in the tank and the pH is around 6.8. I never thought that adding more bio-media to an already mature system could cause a "cycle" like this. It's not a new tank, nothing has changed. I've just added more media to a system that was already handling the bio-load just fine. I've added other brands of media before in similar quantities (last month 1l of Eheim Substrat Pro) with no hiccoughs in water quality. I just figured that since my Rays are growing and I had room in the filters I could add some more.

Is this the reason for the spike? Could it somehow be a false reading? I don't use any chemical-altering conditioners like Amquel, etc and my tap water tests 0 for ammonia. Could it be something with the Matrix media? It's not supposed to be anything but something for bacteria to colonize.

Needless to say I'm not going to feed my guys tonight, but should I be doing yet another water change? Upon seeing those ammonia readings I did a big one last night. Ammonia levels still have not gone down.
 
Crazy.. you didn't remove any media or harm the previous biomedia in any way?

I would hold off on feedings, add stability to re-establish the bio-filter, and continue water changes..

I wonder why the Matrix would do that? It's my favorite biomedia..

PS.. really glad your an MFK'er now :D :D :D
 
I didn't take any media out at all. I just added.

So I should go ahead and do another water change today as well....

What do you mean by "stability to re-establish the bio-filter?" Maybe I'm thinking too hard on that one...I do have pretty bad allergies right now so I'm a bit slow on the uptake, lol.

I do have a huge jug of Amquel+ but I didn't want to use that because I know that will give my test a false positive.
 
Dracofish;1771518; said:
I do have a huge jug of Amquel+ but I didn't want to use that because I know that will give my test a false positive.

Is this true?? this could be why i am getting ammonia readings. I have the suction cup ammonia meters. I used amquel to acclimate and then to detoxify a possible false positive?
 
Any chance of chlorine from the water change getting into the filter?
 
rallysman;1771539; said:
Any chance of chlorine from the water change getting into the filter?


Good Question.. :D



"Stability" is a chemical made by Seachem that adds dormant nitrifying bacteria.. IMO, it's better than Cycle, Stress Zyme, and the others.. but obviously not as effecient as Bio-Spira.


Perhaps the Matrix media is being colonized by 'heterotrophic' bacteria, which is the bacteria that breaks down physical waste into ammonia, right?
 
Oh and I would use Prime or AmQuel to atleast neutralize the ammonia until you can get it solved.. Prime claims to allow the ammonia to be removed from the bio-filter after neutralization, not sure about the AmQuel.

False readings or not.. just gotta change water and get it out and get it all cycled..
 
Being spring and all, it could be possible that my city added a bunch of extra chlorine to the water lines. I have noticed a more "chemically" smell when showering, etc.

I've never had any problems with my normal water changes in the past.
 
I would test for chlorine first. That would easily cause an ammonia spike.
 
If it is chlorine, that would mean I have to re-grow the whole system, right?
 
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