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I just bought a 300 gallon aquarium that i want to set up for peacock bass but I live in an area where we have water softeners in our house.

How can I harden the water so I don’t harm the fish? Do I need to harden the water for the fish?

I have never dealt with soft water before and looking for any information I can get.
 
What’s the water params?
P bass naturally come from soft, acidic water.
 
I would test to see where you are.

Most of the South American cichlids come from soft low PH waters Oscar's, Pbass, Geo's, Chocolate etc.

Acara, GTs, Festae are South American but from West of the Andes mts so harder higher PH waters.
 
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A water softener simply replaces the calcium and magnesium of your tap water with either sodium or potassium. Removal of calcium and magnesium "softens" the water for human use, but does not soften the water for fish use. Soft water fish want low total dissolved solids water parameters. A water softener doesn't lower TDS.

So the better thing for your bass is to use the water before it hits the water softener in the home, typically the garden hose will not go through the water softener. If you really want the best water for your bass then soften the water for your bass. You would have to run water from the garden hose to a reverse osmosis system, and then mix it within a 1:1 ratio with water straight from the garden hose.
 
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I forgot to mention a good alternative to Pbass are Petenia splendida. They are the hard water equivalent of peacock bass.
I agree with this, and about what Rocksor said about "in house water softening". (if you come from a hard water area, Petania would be a much better choice of species)
What you should probably do, is find out about the parameters of your tap water (from the garden hose, and the softened tap), and plan your stock accordingly.
Your city water EPA water Quality Report would have that info, maybe even your water bill.
Cichla are generally soft water species (real soft, not chemically softened) and in hard water "can" become subject to HLLE scarring and other bacterial infections, although not quite as bad as oscars, chocolate etc..
Unless.......you got the P-bass that have been breeding in the hard waters of Florida for the last half century.
There are also P-bass that have been breeding in the hard semi-salty waters of Lake Gatun in Panama, so have over time evolved to live in less than optimum conditions for the species. (of course the don't grow as large here in Panama as they do in the soft waters of Amazonia).
It would be interesting to know how many young died due to less than the right water, compared to how many were able to adjust thru survival of the fittest.
There are enough P-bass now in the lake, there is a yearly fishing jamboree just for them.
 
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If you feel you must keep P-bass, starting a system where you produce "black water" to mix with water changes, by either soaking barrels of leaf litter, or bags sphagnum peat moss could help.
There are species of Cichla that come from strictly black water rivers, and some more adaptable, so some research on your part about those best suited to the conditions you have should be taken into account.
e.g. Cichla temensis is restricted to primarily black water rivers, so probably not a great choice for you, although C monoculus is more widespread geographically throughout S America, so could be more forgiving of less than strict water parameters.
It is also the species more commonly found in Florida, and has been transplanted to other areas.
 
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Thanks for all the information everyone, I’m going to test out my water and I’ll let you guys know what comes up and then I’ll pick your brains some more
 
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Hey everyone,

I got some more questions, PH of my house water is about 7.5

Going to run a test to see how hard my water is this weekend.

What other levels should I be concerned about?
 
Hey everyone,

I got some more questions, PH of my house water is about 7.5

Going to run a test to see how hard my water is this weekend.

What other levels should I be concerned about?

did you test the tap water ph 24 hours after sitting in a container? This will give your true tank PH. You need to test general hardness(gh) and buffering capacity (kh)
 
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