Weird siebenrock's?

[Mount_Prion]

I was under the impression that Siebenrock's side necked turtles tend to be almost all black as juveniles. Or at least that's what theturtlesource.com's images made me believe. As an aside--has anybody been able to get in touch with them recently? I'm worried they're going out of business. Answering machine full, not responding to emails, etc.

AAAANYWAY, I found this other breeder that has some siebenrock's, but I'm wondering if they're a different sub-species than the ones theturtlesource had.

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=133&de=930104

Also, anybody know anything about this breeder? They were quick to respond to emails, so that's at least a good thing.

Thanks!

 

[Experiment397]

Maybe just a lighter morph.


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[kevinfleming21]

These are VERY small baby turts. As they mature, I'm sure the shell would darken somewhat.

 

[crayfishguy]

These are VERY small baby turts. As they mature, I'm sure the shell would darken somewhat.

i agree, it happens with most turtles

 

[Mount_Prion]

Thanks for the replies! Don't suppose anybody has experience with this vendor/breeder?

Theturtlesource is still completely unresponsive!

 

[kevinfleming21]

I have seen them on kingsnake for years, I would wager they are good.

 

[crayfishguy]

i have heard some good reviews

 

[Mount_Prion]

i have heard some good reviews

Again, THANKS!

I'm about 90% sure I'll be picking up some of this batch from them then.