What should i do??

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Wideglide04

Wideglide04

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Hey guys, let me bother ya again. Ok, so wife ordered me some black neon tetra from Liveaquaria since we couldn't find any local after our original 5. I'll go into the details of this purchase in 2-4 weeks after I see whats left. So basically I've lost 3 doa, 1 within 24 hrs that was swimming nose up and 4 more within the first 30 hrs that look faded and maybe like they have ammonia burn???? Is there anything I can do? Ive moved them to my established tank by themselves. Amonnia-0 nitrite-0 nitrate- 5-10
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Well they came from Cali overnight. But the newspaper from Korea tells me they were in transit longer. I have them in an established tank with plants, will this hurt the plant? Ive kept fish for a decade and if they make it 24 hrs I'm set so ive never used meds. So I'm not sure what to expect, I want to keep 10-12 hopefully to add to my school in New tank, but if it hurts my plants I'm not sure I'll kill my plants for fish that may not survive.
If these were shipped in the Continental US I dont think there would have been a problem.
 
One last question. How long should I QT, if I have any left, before adding to my stock. I'll take as long as necessary. Would 4 weeks be enuff for me to assume they're healthy or longer??
 
Wideglide04 said:
One last question. How long should I QT, if I have any left, before adding to my stock. I'll take as long as necessary. Would 4 weeks be enuff for me to assume they're healthy or longer??
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Are you asking a general QT question or with methylene blue? I generally do 60-90 days. During the last 30 days, I introduce things into QT like driftwood or biological media from the main tank and make sure the fish can handle the bacteria from the old tank. I also add a test subject from the main tank to see if something happens to the new and old inhabitants.

If the concern is simply ich, then at least 1 month since ich can show within the first few weeks.
 
Rocksor said:
Are you asking a general QT question or with methylene blue? I generally do 60-90 days. During the last 30 days, I introduce things into QT like driftwood or biological media from the main tank and make sure the fish can handle the bacteria from the old tank. I also add a test subject from the main tank to see if something happens to the new and old inhabitants.

If the concern is simply ich, then at least 1 month since ich can show within the first few weeks.
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Sry, yes I was asking about the methylene blue. Thanks for the answers. Honestly I haven't saw any signs of ich, but hey who knows, they just seem to have faded color around the gills and start swimming funny before dropping dead...
 
Wideglide04 said:
Sry, yes I was asking about the methylene blue. Thanks for the answers. Honestly I haven't saw any signs of ich, but hey who knows, they just seem to have faded color around the gills and start swimming funny before dropping dead...
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With methylene blue, no more than 1 week.

If you decide to do water changes, use your old tank water and redose methylene blue for the amount of water changed. Using new tap water that has chlorine/chloramines requires the addition of water conditioners to neutralize either one. Water conditioners have a reducing agent property and can affect the efficacy of methylene blue. These should be made at least 1 hour ahead of time with ample water circulation.
 
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Rocksor said:
With methylene blue, no more than 1 week.

If you decide to do water changes, use your old tank water and redose methylene blue for the amount of water changed. Using new tap water that has chlorine/chloramines requires the addition of water conditioners to neutralize either one. Water conditioners have a reducing agent property and can affect the efficacy of methylene blue. These should be made at least 1 hour ahead of time with ample water circulation.
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Thanks for all the help! Fingers crossed
 
One thing you may want to consider, is that black neons come from very soft (mineral free) acidic conditions (pH below 7, in some cases as low as pH 5).
The waters they inhabit are also rich in tannic acids, enough to color it brown (tannic acids are also somewhat anti bacterial).
So if your tap water is hard, mineral rich, and pH above 7, the shock may be enough to seriously stress them out.
I agree that by accessing them from somewhere in the US, you may have a better shot at success, depending on the water conditions they are bred in.
Black neons have been around since the 50s, so a strain bred in Floridas mineral rich water may be less sensitive.
If the Korean strain is bred in soft (almost RO) type water, that may be problematic.
 
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