what size pump

[rhinod56]

heres the scoop...
getting a python cleaning kit, so I no longer have to haul buckets back and forth. so I'll siphon the water out with a vac like normal. but heres the difference for me. would like to setup a nice sized garbage bin with aged/treated and heated water, so I always have some on hand. but instead of taking a bucket at a time would like to get a submerisable pump so as pump the water back through the hose into my tanks. So my question is this. how big of a pump do I need to accomplish this. I most likely "EVENTUALLY" be going about maybe really rough estimate of 50-100 feet total with a trip up 1 flight of stairs to the tanks from the reserve/dump point. what size/brand do most of recommend to accomplish this?

 

[Dr Joe]

Your going to have to measure more accurately...

Plan it out, how many 45* / 90* joints and size of pipe or his it hose, if it is going straight up and accross or following stairs at an angle. All this increases head pressure. You could possibly be looking at 20+ of head (that's alot)

Oh, and measure to the top of the take too.

Do you want a submersible pump or external?

Give CHOMPERS sticky a read also...http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47105

Dr Joe

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[boisblancboy]

In this instance I wouldnt worry about your in line fittings. Of course that is going to slow your gph down a little, but big deal, all your doing is transfering water. As long as you have a pump rated for more head preasure than you are going to be dealing with, your home free. This is what I recommend, Quiet One 14000:
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=9849&N=2004+113041

or really any pump with the same specs. Like I said, its not real crucial because all you are doing is transfering water, its not running 24/7.

 

[rhinod56]

will be no sharp bends anywhere...and will be folling stairs up at an angle, not straight up. Thought maybe in the next few days I can try to measure something more accurate, though I do have tanks in different rooms upstairs...
and I wouldprefere an internal, but I guess w/e would be cheaper...

 

[Dr Joe]

The only one that would work from there is the #14000...500gph (8gpm) @ 30ft for $239.99 - a little pricey.

Don't negate connectors...For every 90* joint add 1ft of head.

Following the stairs at an angle will almost double the head pressure. putting an outlet in a central place and using a hose to go to each tank is still better than carrying it up the stairs...

I'm still looking for a pump.

Can you find a 55g plastic barrel?

 

[CHOMPERS]

Any reason for not having a barrel upstairs, like in a closet? That way you can get by with a cheaper pump. Little Giant has some sump pumps that will pump from downstairs that are cheaper than Quiet One. Also check out Harbor Freight.

I've been meaning to post a thread with some water change tools that you will probably like. (Too many threads, not enough time.)

 

[hillbilly]

Before I got into using drip, I transferred water out of my tanks using a pump that was rated at 500gph. I think it was really four hundred something actually, you know how mfg. rate their pumps. Anyway, the point is that it worked great for that purpose. So, I would say that a pump rated at 500gph. or so would serve your needs.

 

[Dr Joe]

Before I got into using drip, I transferred water out of my tanks using a pump that was rated at 500gph. I think it was really four hundred something actually, you know how mfg. rate their pumps. Anyway, the point is that it worked great for that purpose. So, I would say that a pump rated at 500gph. or so would serve your needs.

Were you pumping from the basement?

 

[hillbilly]

No basement. But up some steps about 4' and through 100' of hose. Yes, I"m sure there was head loss, but some loss was unimportant as I was just moving water from one place to another, and not running filters, etc. A smaller pump that has high head pressure could also be used like a model 4000HH Quiet One pump if determined more lift is needed, instead of a large one. about $100. Just one example of such a pump off the top of my head, I'm sure there are many others.

 

[rhinod56]

took a tape measure, and rough estimate looks to be about 69 feet give or take a couple feet.
Biggest tank is in the lower level along with the utility tub in the washroom. will fill the garbage can from there. then several tanks upstairs, with the farthest being about 69 feet from the source up 1 floor....don't really care about flow rate so long as it gets the job done, and doesn't take forever to do so. and the cheaper the better...