Both are P. reticulatus aka retics. They look good too! Make sure you keep these guys well fed and in perfect water as they are one of the harder rays to keep.
deffinatly retics....what size tank are they in.... as said keep them fat and water clean.... search the stingray forum here lots of information on them...
Cheers guys they in 100g i just bought. On there own both eat like little pigs.Tank turns water over 5 times a hour.What size do these guys get only 4-6 inch at the mo.
Agreed retics they can get to really long if you include the tail but there disk wont get as large as lets say a motoro but it will make up for that size with its tail