Nope, they are different, if you are talkin about tapajos red and cobras. They are relatively easy to tell apart, even the juv. phases are different. 'red tapajos' as adults are pretty much completely red, where as in cobras the females are the only ones that get really red. Tapajos red also have a black blotch behind their pectoral fin when they are mature. not sure if they have it when they are juv though. Juv. cobras are pretty easy to pick out, they have a sort of yellow camoflauge color to them...really striking. I have some cobras, I'll post some pictures when i get some more up, and MTN PIKE has some tapajos red...we'll post...so you can see the difference...
no...the red atabapos aren't the aren't the true fire atabapos...they are actually C. sp. cf. lugubris atabapo'...in other words they are just a variant of lugubris. don't get quite as nice as true atabapos.....some may not even get all that red...stick wit flame...
they get super red!
tapajos red are indeed glowing red..totally agree with you there. I was talkin about the red atabapos that Rapps had. Haven't seen pictures of them but i talked with a friend of mine in Japan (he sees all of Rapps fish first...
There's only 1 C lugubris in this picture. The rest are tapajos
C Lugubris Red in link, the body is not so red like tapajos are less red in the body than Tapajos
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?494218-Crenicichla-cf-lugubris-RED-ATABAPO
Info on Tapajos from Peanut
Info on Lugubris Red if that's what you mean by lugubris
