Whats wrong with Humanity........... controversial but alot truth too
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Don't we all wish that wasn't the truth. The world would be a lot better a place without humans but were here now and obviously not going away.
Hello; to those who are young and those with children or grand children, perhaps you should not read my post. It will not encourage you.
I was a senior in high school in 1965. I believe that was the year I first found Silent Spring by Rachel Carson. Like many even today, I was not convinced that all was to be lost. BY 1975 and after a Degree in Biology and graduate work in ecology I came to believe the worst is inevitable. I was childless at the time and took steps to remain so permanently. My feelings were two fold, one that a reduction in the human population was the most workable path to a possible stable environment. The other was that by 1975 I did not believe people would make the needed changes and to bring a child into what I envisioned was, in my mind, a crime against the child.
The cartoon is an apt, if limited, vision of what I had imagined back then. The things I feared have happened and we are well into the early stages. In recent years as the evidence was piling up in abundance and, to me, should have been obvious to most anyone I looked for what was likely my last hope that people would come to our collective senses. There are more people aware than ever before, but alas not near enough.
Now in my senior years I have a hope that the people who face the fruits of our man made environmental legacies now and those still to come will grant me. That hope is they will give me some small credit in that the children I did not have are not adding to their problems. While there were periods of personal failure, I also have tried to live a life of reduced impact. I have lived long enough to see the beginnings of what we will reap.
The folks that make the documentaries nowadays have changed from talking about prevention of the problems to talking about possibly moderating the impact. I suppose there is some sliver of hope.
Good luck to us all
I was a senior in high school in 1965. I believe that was the year I first found Silent Spring by Rachel Carson. Like many even today, I was not convinced that all was to be lost. BY 1975 and after a Degree in Biology and graduate work in ecology I came to believe the worst is inevitable. I was childless at the time and took steps to remain so permanently. My feelings were two fold, one that a reduction in the human population was the most workable path to a possible stable environment. The other was that by 1975 I did not believe people would make the needed changes and to bring a child into what I envisioned was, in my mind, a crime against the child.
The cartoon is an apt, if limited, vision of what I had imagined back then. The things I feared have happened and we are well into the early stages. In recent years as the evidence was piling up in abundance and, to me, should have been obvious to most anyone I looked for what was likely my last hope that people would come to our collective senses. There are more people aware than ever before, but alas not near enough.
Now in my senior years I have a hope that the people who face the fruits of our man made environmental legacies now and those still to come will grant me. That hope is they will give me some small credit in that the children I did not have are not adding to their problems. While there were periods of personal failure, I also have tried to live a life of reduced impact. I have lived long enough to see the beginnings of what we will reap.
The folks that make the documentaries nowadays have changed from talking about prevention of the problems to talking about possibly moderating the impact. I suppose there is some sliver of hope.
Good luck to us all
That's exactly how I feel about having children. Its almost a selfish in considering these things, especially when you can adopt a child that will love you just as much as your own would have.
I can go on for days about this kind of thing. Like sd I just hope more people come to their senses. Like Texas, people in the administration believe the MASSIVE drought is just a stroke of bad luck and literally ignore any environmental research that proves otherwise. Its just sad. Then they play into peoples religious beliefs that somehow means that we can't negatively effect the planet.
Just ugh. Ughhhh.
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I can go on for days about this kind of thing. Like sd I just hope more people come to their senses. Like Texas, people in the administration believe the MASSIVE drought is just a stroke of bad luck and literally ignore any environmental research that proves otherwise. Its just sad. Then they play into peoples religious beliefs that somehow means that we can't negatively effect the planet.
Just ugh. Ughhhh.
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Humanity is a reality. We gotta feel bad for existing? People will do whatever is necessary to survive. The dominant species does whatever it wants. I see it no different than how animals survive, only difference is we complain. But those that complain contribute to these problems daily and never do a thing about it just point fingers. Many animals are destructive not just humans. Do they feel guilt about destroying ecosystems or out completing other species? Does a lion feel guilty eating a baby gazelle? Yeah the resources and natural beauty of the planet is getting used up/destroyed but nothing you can do about it. You got 7 billion people on this planet who all need to eat. Driving a car, using a computer, going out and shopping for non essentials (like many do) all contribute to the destruction of this planet. I see no need in trying to guilt others or worry all day about these kind of problems. I don't like these things but like I say, you can't do anything. We are really insignificant in all of this. One day it will all end and the earth will go on.
hello; While there some specific points in your post that can be questioned and the basic primis is some what fatalistic, I will respond as i have to people face to face. "I do not want to be one wearing the leopard skin coat." Thought of as specifically contributing to the demise of an endangered species by adding to the monetary value of it's skin. More generally meaning that I as an individual make choices each day as to how I live. Each decision has an impact on the environment at some level of impact. Perhaps living a lower impact life will not make much difference in the whole scheme of things, but there may be some sort of personal honor.
My decisions are more to reduce my personal guilt than to "guilt others". Many of those I have interacted personally with over the last few decades find fault with my philosophy. At some basic level I believe they understand that to live a more modest live involves giving up a lifestyle they want to keep. Many want to maintain the moder "western lifestyle" pretty much no matter the ultimate cost.
The "We are really insignificant in all of this." verbage has been one of the more common rebukes. That there are seven billion + of we insignificant individuals is in itself very significant. You are correct in that the sheer numbers are most likely already beyond the carryiing capacity of the planet. I cannot answer for the other bilions, only for my actions.