Whats wrong with my Giraffe?

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Carl D

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Hi,

My giraffe catfish has developed a 'poorly' eye. One eye is normal, but the other has swelled out of its socket and has a see-through bubble over it. Anybody have any ideas as to whats wrong?

Thanks,
Carl.
 
sounds like popeye! What are your water params?
 
Neutral Ph, Nitrates are quite high temperature set to about 28C.
Thanks

Carl.
 
Hmmm, Here's what discuss unlimited has to say about popeye! Hope it helps POP-EYE

Popeye also known as exophthalmial. This condition is caused by a wide range of factors including, bacterial infections, parasite infrestations, poor water quality, and internal metabolic system disorders.

OBVIOUS- SYMPTOMS

One or both eyes protrude form the head in an unusual shape. I refer to fish other then gold fish some of which have been bred for this appearance. The eye lens can be cloudy white looking as well. In some cases the eye will look normal it just protrudes to much, also a white ring is sometimes noticed that circles the eye where it meets the head but the eye other wise looks ok.

OCCURRENCE OF THE SYMPTOMS

The disease usually only affects one or two fish in an aquarium, and is rarely markedly infectious however that being said. Prevention is the best part of treatment. I would move any effected fish to its own treatment tank. ( why take chances )
Sometimes the condition will persist for a short time and then may disappear without treatment other then good clean water. It is very rare that a fish will die as a direct result of this disease. If uniform numbers of fish in a tank become infected they you can suspect water qualtiy has been poor and or a infectious agent is present Below is an Oscar with popeye showing the white ring around the eye juncture with the head. Also you will note the eye clear other then the pen point of light in the center, which is just a reflection of the flash taking the photo.


Popeye can be caused by a Build up of fluid
in or behind the eyes or by the presence of . bacteria and parasitic eye flukes. The Oscar, has T.B. infection behind its eye caused by eating gold fish infected with it.
Photographs by Tetra Publications. To which I extend my thanks.




TREATMENT- RECOMMENDED

Treatment with a broad spectrum antibotic, injection is the prefered method if the problem is of a bacterial nature. There is not much other then that treatment that offers much hope for improvement. I suggest the fish be isolated and give extra clean water and varied diet. Should the fish show no improvement appear and the fish shows any sign of distress, destroy them painlessly and consider it a kindness.

Medicated food could be tried, but no studies have been done to show the effectiveness of any of the methods listed. My personal feeling is that due to the possble spread to other fish I distroy the fish as soon as the condition is noted.


On a side note to what the good doctor said in his article. I have treated popeye with frequent water changes and some added salt to the water. After several weeks of 50% water changes every 2-3 days the problem went away! I had an oscar that lost his eye after it ruptured from popeye. He lived to 14" inches though. He lost the eye when he was 3". Hope this helps!
 
OK thanks vey much.

I have a well oversized filter ans suspect it could be poor water quality. Im amazed the filter doesn't propely filter the tank, its rated for 600L and mine is only 450L with the 4 inhabitants. I wouldn't say i overfeed either. Can anybody think of any ways the filter might have 'gone wrong' somehow? I've checked it before and it seems to be OK. I feed cockles, muscles and similar foods every 2-3 days so i wouldn't say i overfeed.

Thanks,

Carl.
 
I would say that with the inhabitants in your tank if they are of any good size at all, you need to have much more filtration. When I go for filtration for my tanks I don't look at the manufacturer's ratings for tank size. Those would be appropriate for keeping guppies, discuss, danios, ect. As for extremely large catfish, the more filtration the better. Those cats produce copious amounts of waste that turn into nitrates. A wet dry is best, but not everyone has that capability. I too am using canister filters. Right now my 350 gal pond has two fluval Fx5s on it. Each one is rated to 900 gph or so(if I remember correctly) So that right there gives me 6x the recommended filtration. I also have a powerhead filter at 400gph. That brings me to around 7.33 x filtration. I believe that for these large waste producers if you have your filters set up right you should have around 5-10x the recommended filtration. Sounds like your other params are on track, you might want to increase the frequency and amount of water changes. I do %50 water changes 2x per week.
 
I do about 40L a week. I'm not changing 50% a week thats riduculus. Doing that much will surely remove all the good bacteria and water, plus it would cost a bomb to change that much water.

Carl.
 
Carl D;666662; said:
I do about 40L a week. I'm not changing 50% a week thats riduculus. Doing that much will surely remove all the good bacteria and water, plus it would cost a bomb to change that much water.

Carl.
Ummm... you are way off. The beneficial bacteria that have colonized your filter are keeping your ammonia and nitrites in check the bacteria in your water are really insignificant. 40 liters a week in a 450 liter tank is definately not enough, in my opinion 50% a week is the least you can do for your fish.

If you can't afford the water bill maybe think of getting smaller fish.
 
sorry it took me so long to get back to you on this subject. I agree that 40L water change will do very little to benifit your tank. I personally do 2 %50 changes in all of my tanks every week. Sometimes more if the nitrates get high.
 
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