When (age/size) do giant gouramis usually calm down?

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Just keep tossing him feeders, you do you boo…
I actually logged in today to give an update on me being an idiot by assuming the GG was the one eating them bc I saw him snatch one and chase a bunch of others, when the confirmed culprit is (and should have obviously been from the start) the Lima.

Whatever tho. I guess I found my answer as to why the traffic here is so low compared to back in the day.
 
It’s hard to recognise when the fish are small and the tank looks easily big enough. But the answers you’re getting are not wrong, they are just up front and letting you know what is to come. Ok, they could be put to you better and phrased differently, but I’ve been there, I know, there not the answers to questions your asking and there not answers you want to hear.
The thing is, a 24” gourami and a potentially 18” lima (that’s how big both of mine are/got to) will be a different look in a tank. With a group of 12” tinfoils at the time, even you may recognise it to be crowded. But yes that’s another 12-18 months down the line and there’s lots you can do in the meantime. But that includes things like, move the fish on to someone else, build a pond, spend thousands on a tank three times the size.
But you need to be aware of these things upfront, so you can make your choices now.
Now if he stays the size he is, great, and only your Lima gets bigger, and your water quality is really good, then yes a small group of tinfoils might be a good choice.

And on the other note, that might be part of the reason although I doubt it.
It’s equally people not wanting to hear the answer they’re given and only recognising it was right 12 months later. Maybe leaving the site in the meantime. But mainly that fishkeeping as a hobby is slowly dieing out. With all the restrictions on imports, what you can keep, google searches instead of experienced answers on sites like this, and the spiralling cost of energy and hardware.
Too many people give it a go thinking it’s “just keeping fish”, not recognising the amount of research, questions, things to think about, the science behind it, and the amount of crap info there is at your fingertips on sites like Facebook.
It is keeping fish, but it is really keeping really good water, if you can do that then keeping fish becomes easy.
 
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It’s hard to recognise when the fish are small and the tank looks easily big enough. But the answers you’re getting are not wrong, they are just up front and letting you know what is to come. Ok, they could be put to you better and phrased differently, but I’ve been there, I know, there not the answers to questions your asking and there not answers you want to hear.
The thing is, a 24” gourami and a potentially 18” lima (that’s how big both of mine are/got to) will be a different look in a tank. With a group of 12” tinfoils at the time, even you may recognise it to be crowded. But yes that’s another 12-18 months down the line and there’s lots you can do in the meantime. But that includes things like, move the fish on to someone else, build a pond, spend thousands on a tank three times the size.
But you need to be aware of these things upfront, so you can make your choices now.
Now if he stays the size he is, great, and only your Lima gets bigger, and your water quality is really good, then yes a small group of tinfoils might be a good choice.

And on the other note, that might be part of the reason although I doubt it.
It’s equally people not wanting to hear the answer they’re given and only recognising it was right 12 months later. Maybe leaving the site in the meantime. But mainly that fishkeeping as a hobby is slowly dieing out. With all the restrictions on imports, what you can keep, google searches instead of experienced answers on sites like this, and the spiralling cost of energy and hardware.
Too many people give it a go thinking it’s “just keeping fish”, not recognising the amount of research, questions, things to think about, the science behind it, and the amount of crap info there is at your fingertips on sites like Facebook.
It is keeping fish, but it is really keeping really good water, if you can do that then keeping fish becomes easy.
No, they're not correct or being straight forward. They're concern trolling over tank size.

Having had Lima yourself, you know that sp lima was split into lima and elongatus way back. You also know the difference between the two and why I don't have to worry about mine hitting 18". Hell, I bought him hoping he would and drew the short straw one that, literally. He's been right at his current size for years.

As far as the GG goes, that's awesome that you had a 2' long one. What was it's growth rate like? Did it have a magical growth spurt at 4 years old? How old was it when it hit about 18"?

I started this thread to correct a misconception I had about GGs getting mellow as they age, not get concern trolled over a non-issue by couple of people who can't make simple logical inferences from the information given.
 
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Perhaps in future, when you ask a question you should explain what answers you want to hear and accept. That might spare us all some unpleasantness, and save you the trouble of explaining why everyone else is wrong.

Puts small tetras in a tank with a Shovelnose Cat...assumes GG is the main culprit when tetras disappear...accuses others of "concern trolling"...hmmm...

Was stuff like that considered the hot ticket on MFK "back in the day"?
 
Perhaps in future, when you ask a question you should explain what answers you want to hear and accept. That might spare us all some unpleasantness, and save you the trouble of explaining why everyone else is wrong.

Puts small tetras in a tank with a Shovelnose Cat...assumes GG is the main culprit when tetras disappear...accuses others of "concern trolling"...hmmm...

Was stuff like that considered the hot ticket on MFK "back in the day"?
Way to ignore the point
 
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No, they're not correct or being straight forward. They're concern trolling over tank size.

Having had Lima yourself, you know that sp lima was split into lima and elongatus way back. You also know the difference between the two and why I don't have to worry about mine hitting 18". Hell, I bought him hoping he would and drew the short straw one that, literally. He's been right at his current size for years.

As far as the GG goes, that's awesome that you had a 2' long one. What was it's growth rate like? Did it have a magical growth spurt at 4 years old? How old was it when it hit about 18"?

I started this thread to correct a misconception I had about GGs getting mellow as they age, not get concern trolled over a non-issue by couple of people who can't make simple logical inferences from the information given.
Ok I was trying, and obviously failing to be rational and nice but I do find that way too many folks come on here, give one tiny snippet of information about the fish they own and then expect a detailed analysis of a question they have asked ………. And then get pissed off when people start giving them answers they don’t like to hear, sorry, you may know this as tank trolling them.
I would suggest that at 4 years old your albino gourami at 14” is stunted. This could be from poor genetics, poor diet, or too small housing. By 18 months mine had reached 14” and I moved them to 1200 gal where they both continued to grow, reaching 2 ft in about 3 years.
As for the Lima , yes I know the type differences. The one I have in the pond has also continued to grow having been moved out of the 180 and is currently huge. The smaller one is only 12” in the 180 at 2 yrs. he may be a different type of course, BUT he may grow to 18” if I move him to the pond, I just can’t because I fear 12” isn’t big enough for him to survive.
Your Lima may be the smaller growing elongatus or again it could just be a slow growing or stunted trigonocephalus, or Lima.

Worth noting that the the misconception that fish grow to the size of their tank is actually true to a great extent…….. they shouldn’t , but they do…….. the more water they have and the more space they have the more they grow, there isn’t a min or max that they start or stop growing but put your four year old GG in 2000g and you may find he grows to 2ft - even now. Equally you may find he doesn’t.

Now that I have an idea about who you are etc. going back to the original questions I may be able to change my answers to ones you may have accepted

Any ideas? NO

Am I too early? NO

Is the GG just a jerk? POSSIBLY

Am I trying the wrong dithers? YES

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I DONT THINK YOU MEAN THIS AT ALL
 
Hope you didn't throw your back out with that helluva reach.

'Both the fish are stunted'...sure, lol

And let me guess...you grew out both of your GGs in that 180 to 14", together, in 18 months? Convenient.

And it's not answers I don't like, it's wrong answers to a question I didn't ask and the tripling down on it when presented with evidence to the contrary.

I asked in good faith and received a few good answers that let me know my prior thoughts on GG behavior as they aged were wrong, then got a side of irrelevant chiding from parrots.
If he starts looking cramped, I'll get him a bigger tank. Big flipping deal.

Or am I committing such a horrible atrocity right now that I should just net him and take him out back Old Yeller style to spare him the suffering that is his current enclosure since I can guarantee there's no one anywhere near me that can care for him better than me?
 
Man...I feel bad for leaving this old boy in here to rot in squalor. He's so cramped/stunted/in bad water/being fed a poor diet(whatever excuse makes you feel better). how will I ever live with myself 🙄

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