When To Quit?

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FishGoneWild

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Lately, I've been buying a lot of angelfish and having them died on me. Instead of quitting I went back to the same source and bought more. Have you guys ever wanted to keep a certain type of fish so badly but had no success at it? When do you give up on the idea of wanting to keep this one specific specy fish you had no success with? Do you trying until the expenses add up or move on?
 
something is wrong. it might be the lfs, or you tank water condition. i never had angel fish, but i know they like soft water, amazon bio tope . try adding blackwater extract, or almond leaves.
 
If you have some sensitive fish I would not try and mess with their pH. For future reference, in a captive bred fish, it is better to get some tank water from the LFS and slowly acclimate it (look up on drip acclimation) to your water.

There's too many variables here for anyone to figure out what's going on. My gut instinct says stop buy fish until you can figure out why they're dying. What kind of tank are you keeping them in, has anything been in the tank before, what are the temps in it versus what's at the LFS, what is the chemistry of your water, how are you acclimating them. If you can rule all these things out, you can safely say it is either bad breeding or bad keeping at the LFS.
 
cassharper;2316338; said:
There's too many variables here for anyone to figure out what's going on. My gut instinct says stop buy fish until you can figure out why they're dying. What kind of tank are you keeping them in, has anything been in the tank before, what are the temps in it versus what's at the LFS, what is the chemistry of your water, how are you acclimating them. If you can rule all these things out, you can safely say it is either bad breeding or bad keeping at the LFS.
I have not mess with the pH and LFS is within 1 mile away. I'm keeping them in a 12gal QT tank with no other tank other than same specy. Other fish have been in their before but I emptied it out and hose it with garden hose before refilling. Water is typically hard water and 8 pH. Acclimating thru the small scoop of water into fish bag every 10 mins for 45 mins.
 
dumb ? but is it cycled?
 
i thought that it isnt the water but it is the gravel or filter media that really gets the bacteria going
 
Yeah I would try a different source and see if that helps. Mostly LFS' get their stock from the same warehouse, so try to find a place that has a different supplier
 
i will never quit. If I go to the lfs's this weekend and see a ace falcatus (red tail baracuda) he is mine. I ahve tried 4-6 before and only have one to show for it. And I have been at this aquarium game for 15+ years. ---------------------But to help you out maybe, One thing I started doing with all my sensitive fish is a drip acclimation. I read a article a few years ago about buying a fish in a bag like most do and it said that after there is a build up of co2 in the bag from the fish using alot of the available oxygen that makes the ph start to drop and as soon as you tear open the bag and let a rush of fresh oxygen into the bag you get a large ph swing and this as you know cause a shock to the fish. So know i immediatly let the fish go in a dedicated aquarium bucket and put a cup of tank water in there asap and then start a drip. You can use your air tubing and tie it in a knot to limit the flow and then start a syphon from the tank it is going into. The drip should last for about a 1 hour to fill the bucket and then net the fish out and place it in its tank. ------------try that. ----do a search on here about fish acclimation and you will more than likely find what I said or maybe something better.
 
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