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Fishman Dave

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Well, I have been “managing” to keep my current fish stock in my 20x8 fish house(shed) for the past 8 years now and had pretty much got tanks into every available space, noting that this building also has my 1600 usg pond too.
When I say all my tanks, that’s a slight lie, as my wife allows me one six foot tank in our dinning room and a five foot marine tank in our living room.
But when I recently had to replace a section of garden decking, imagine my surprise when she suggested I could extend my fish house!
Ok, I may have been nagging for the last 3 of those 8 years, but hey, good things do come to those who wait! (And nag)
Our garden here in the uk is like many, not large- in fact only 40 ft long by 30 ft wide so I suppose I do ok to have a fish house, green house and a 4000 usg koi pond too.
My fish house is built on the original site of our garage, so all of the 3 ft deep pond has to be above ground and since it’s on concrete it has to be insulated for our winters here get down to -10c.
The 10 x 10 space behind my existing fish house used to house my greenhouse, but with a little extra work and some negotiating I managed to move that, and that meant I could extend and “knock through” my existing fish house to provide a door through, albeit the two would be on different levels.
The new build would be 10x10x over 10ft high, giving me great room for tanks but also for storage.
After so long in the hobby it is surprising how much “useful” stuff you keep, so now was a good time for a clear out.
After which I have managed to keep just eight polystyrene fish boxes of thing that “might be repaired eventually” or that “may come in handy”!
The fish house built, tanks all had to be transferred, the door cut through and the stairs between built. Might sound ok but noting that where the door was going to go already had 5 tanks in front of it, and they all had to be moved before it could be cut through.
I already had managed to cram 13 tanks containing over 800 usg into what essentially was the 8x8 space on the end of my fish house you walk into (ie with a door in too!) so it was getting a little cramped!
Most now moved out of the way and into the new bit. 5D188F09-72E2-40AF-A2F5-DE7559FBB0A3.jpeg
The new bit seems now to have been populated with tanks and all the “good stuff” I was gonna do I am now trying to do by working around everything, like drilling tanks one by one to put on a system, or adding better airlines using pressurised pipe instead of 4mm air lines everywhere, or the pipes to drain, etc.
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But that’s what happens when almost every tank you own ends up full of water!
Although i do now have space for probably 20 more 3 ft tanks, although I better take my time in getting those, don’t want to push my luck too much!
My “new bit” stopped looking new even before I had got the door cut through to the old bit but at some point I may get chance to catch up with what I had actually wanted to do......... but I may have to stop keeping fish for a year to do that.......... and I don’t see that happening any time soon!
Do like this extra space though...........mmmmmm...... catfish grow on pond or 10 breeding tanks...........mmmmm.....
 
I have done similar several times resulting in several fish rooms, each improving as I refine.

You can fit a surprising number of 3 foot tanks if you rack end side out and go 5 tiers high. Possibly 150 tanks.
 
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So having ran the fish house for 18 months, all through last winter and this summer there were some observations.

Through the winter the lower portion gets quite cold, even though it’s indoors and insulated just like the top section. Unfortunately heat rises and any warmth from the bottom section rises to the top section, hence all the tanks need individual heaters in winter, not helped with the lower section being built on a concrete slab that even though it has insulation still sucks out the heat to some extent.
Summer months are fine and no tanks need heating.

With the new rediculous energy prices we are seeing for at least the next two years, this means all the “tropical” fish need to be in tanks in the higher level over winter. Whilst I can keep the temperate or cold water stuff down the bottom area, I don’t really have that many temperate species, other than all my breeding and grow on bristlenose or koi.

So I have taken the steps to “move” individuals such as the jelly cat and the Wallago who were sharing a 390l corner tank, to the pond. Both were around 10” so too small to eat anything yet, but a risk as my hemibagrus is 18”, tsn 20” and marmoratus 26”. Not to mention the two Asian red tails which are already >1ft.

Having freed up two 390l corners in this way I have consolidated all my 3ft and 4ft planted community tanks (4) into these two larger tanks.

I have switched 80% of the tanks from mechanical filtration to air driven filtration, although there are a few where it’s just not possible as the filtration is large and needs to be outside the tank.
I have also managed to replace the old t8 lights that were lighting the majority of my planted tanks with led equivalent.
I am of course cutting down the number of “new arrivals” both on a buying side and a breeding side, just for the winter so now trying to move on some of the 300 adult and juvenile bristlenose I have. Which unfortunately means selling around ten pairs of browns and blue eyed lemons to the shop, which in turn may close my supply route too in future when others breed my fish. So next year might be a whole new fish breeding programme.

Seems a lot of effort moving so many tanks and fish around just for the winter months but our home electricity bill (including the fish house) has just tripled, and even with the price cap the government have introduced will still be almost double this years figure. Considering it was already four times higher than that of a “normal” family of 4. Unsurprisingly my hobby gets the blame and I have to show I am cutting back and making changes.

On a positive note, this might now allow me to sort out the bottom section with an auto top up, central drain, drill some tanks and put a main airline in instead of so many individual 4mm lines from my big air pumps.

Looking forward to what new tanks I can set up in the spring and what I may look to breed, that is of course if we still have aquatic shops open! As their electricity charges are not capped by the government and I hear stories of electricity bills for shops going from £4000 a month to £15000 a month - that’s an awful lot more guppies they have to sell!
 
When I lived in WI (where winters temps easily dipped to 20" below zero F in Dec, Jan, Feb, even Mar ,and my fish shed energy bills averaged about $400 per month.
I unplugged heaters June thru Sept even for most tropicals fir a respite from the cost.
Then about 10 years before moving south, I started keeping a bunch of Uruguayan species, and was able to unplug about half the heaters for them, year round .
This might be worth considering, there are Pleco's, Cory's and other catfish, tetras including Piranha types, and of course, cichlids and many interesting cooler water temp species much like, their northern South American cousins.
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The shot above is a reading from my Uruguayan community tank, some of its fish species below
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I placed the Uruguayans tanks against a north wall
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