So im thinking about building a pond in my backyard for my pbass for the summer. Im thinking about putting a green house around the pond to keep the temp up. i was wondering would a in ground pond be better than an above the ground pond, with foam insulation around the sides, in retaining heat? Im thinking the in ground pond but is it THAT more effective? Im trying to not dig a hole in the backyard so not to piss off my mom even further. Which one would be cheaper?
Which will be easier to heat?
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Well, the ground would be the best insulator, if it was deep enough. But if you want to avoid that route, I would go with sitting a pond on top of foam insulation, then insulating it about as well as you would a house (4-6" of fiberglass, foam, or expanding foam insulation). Then have the greenhouse heated in the winter, and ventilated well in the summer. You'll need some kind of cover for it in the winter. If you build it to the right size, you can use a hot tub cover, which work very well for insulating, and are not too heavy. or you could make your own cover as well. The water would have to be heated, not just the greenhouse.
Well, the ground acts as natural insulation, so you wouldn't have to pay for that. But the cost of digging the pond, unless done by yourself by hand, may offset that cost.
Heating wise, I think you're going to have the same energy use for heating whether its an in-ground pond or above-ground pond, as long as its insulated properly either way.
I think its more going to come down to which you would prefer, and will be easier for you to accomplish. Heating costs would probably even out for both options.
Heating wise, I think you're going to have the same energy use for heating whether its an in-ground pond or above-ground pond, as long as its insulated properly either way.
I think its more going to come down to which you would prefer, and will be easier for you to accomplish. Heating costs would probably even out for both options.
Is it just for summer?
The green house will make a year round structure to house the fish in and no need to move that back indoors when temps. drop. Use the soil to your advantage. A pond, even partially in-ground, will both insulate and regulate the water temps. better if not fully exposed to the elements.
The green house will make a year round structure to house the fish in and no need to move that back indoors when temps. drop. Use the soil to your advantage. A pond, even partially in-ground, will both insulate and regulate the water temps. better if not fully exposed to the elements.
Im stuck on which one to go with. I dont want to do the in ground one cuz i dont wanna dig out the dirt which would make a mess. but i dont mind doing it and it would be A LOT simpler to do the in ground pond vs the above ground oneConner;4383263; said:
Idk yet....would the green house still work without a heater in the winter time? Now im kinda leaning toward the pond liner in ground pond. how deep would it have to be for stable temps?Muske;4383338; said:
The deeper you dig it into the ground, the more stable it would be, but I would look for at least 2 feet below ground level, or maybe down to whatever your frost line is (assuming it isn't too deep).
One way to do it, would be to bury it half way. Then you pile up all the dirt you excavated around the edges, so that the entire thing is actually buried under dirt, but only the bottom half is actually below the original ground level. This will provide good insulation, while making the digging job easier on you.
As far as the greenhouse, it depends on where you live. If you have cold winters that get anywhere near freezing temperatures, then you're going to have to heat it in the winter to keep the pond warm enough.
One way to do it, would be to bury it half way. Then you pile up all the dirt you excavated around the edges, so that the entire thing is actually buried under dirt, but only the bottom half is actually below the original ground level. This will provide good insulation, while making the digging job easier on you.
As far as the greenhouse, it depends on where you live. If you have cold winters that get anywhere near freezing temperatures, then you're going to have to heat it in the winter to keep the pond warm enough.
You will probably need some form of heat for the pond, but you can probably get away with not heating the greenhouse.
And at those temps, you may not even need to bury it. Just do some basic insulating around the outside, and maybe have an insulated lid for winter, and that's it.
And at those temps, you may not even need to bury it. Just do some basic insulating around the outside, and maybe have an insulated lid for winter, and that's it.
Actually, in the winter time the ground will cool off as much/more than the air will. Thus it will not act as insulation. Having it above ground inside a greenhouse would be a much better choice.