Cichlasoma umbriferum, any one got good info on these great looking fish? i've heard they need 500gal alone.....heard they get 24"+ as males. are they just the meanest cichlid or what? has anyone ever kept them succesfully w/ any other fish? breed them? i wish all these large nice looking cichlids would put up w/ eachother so i could have a sick ass tank w/ having 10,000gal tank haha. so guys please gimme your thought. i notice alot of talk about jags, RD, Midas, FH, GT, and other large fish.........what is there to say about the umbee from ppl who have owned them. thanks