I figured this would help alot of those who have never done it and want to do it. I figured a majority of us have done it but been in the same boat as those who are trying to decide who to order from so i think we should help them out... Make a list of who you ordered from and fish you got and how everthing wentFor me-First order was from floridatropicalfishdirect.comOrdered-5 festaes and a cubanExperience with them- very good customer service and quick email responses and fish are very nice quality. I've since sold these fish but kept in touch with the buyers and all fish are great. Shipping isnt too bad to NY where i liveRapps and tangledupincichlids.comI have 3 orderes with Rapps wich include- grammodes, trimac, lyonsi, red istlanum, and 4 beanisExperience with Rapps- Top of my list for a vendor and fish are just awesome. Shipping is cheap if you live close like i do. Very helpful and he know his stuff. Dan from cichlidsoftheamericas.comordered a pair of grammodesExperience with Dan- Shipping wasnt bad and fish are very nice. I thougth my grammodes werent showing any color till the wife noticed some on my female so i should have been a lil more patient. Has a nice list of WC fish and prices are great