wild Nimbochromis fuscotaeniatus ??
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A wild one, not often. But I don't really see many africans wild in stores anymore. But I have seen a ton. In fact I saw basically an tank stuffed with ~50 about a month ago.
As for difference between wild and tank raise? I honestly say if you can get tank raised, the only reason one would was if they were trying to do a major breeding program. (Some people claim wilds look better, but honestly I think that is bogus. Plus tank raised are less likely to eat all your fish.)
As for difference between wild and tank raise? I honestly say if you can get tank raised, the only reason one would was if they were trying to do a major breeding program. (Some people claim wilds look better, but honestly I think that is bogus. Plus tank raised are less likely to eat all your fish.)
thanks for the reply, i agree that domestic most of the time have as good if not better color, due to the more pampered life, and controled food intake, as for the fusco, i belive the face is becoming more pushed in due to the lack of genetics in the breeding pool of the fusco's, now you mentioned that tanked raised wont eat your fish, i see where your getting with that, and i have noticed the same with lake cichlids, but the exception in cichlids would be the hemichromis, the wild types are much calmer, then the domestic breed for some reason, please, let me know, what you think, of my statements.
I am not sure I would agree on the last part, most fish wild or TR can have a great attitude or be a crapbag... it is like people some are great others well, I would not get them a christmas present. Your experience may lay one way, but the ones I have had experience with have been more laid back...
I have to agree with chugger about wild cichlids being more peaceful than captive raised ones in general. Everyone always complains about how aggressive Ps. polit are, and yet I had no aggression issues with them, or my Mel. cyaneorhabdos when I received my WC's a couple years ago. Even with my wild Rhampho's, they're much more peaceful than many other piscivores once converted to pellets. I even put two small (1") Pundamilia nyererei in with them as feeders, and the 12-14" Rhampho's didn't even blink. The little guys are still in there!
I think that in many instances the wild fish 'mellow out' when they realize that they don't have to compete for space or food like they did in the wild, whereas captive fish know no differences, so instinct kicks in and they feel they have to fight for everything.
I think that in many instances the wild fish 'mellow out' when they realize that they don't have to compete for space or food like they did in the wild, whereas captive fish know no differences, so instinct kicks in and they feel they have to fight for everything.
I have a ~4year old fusco thats F1. I don't know what the problem is, but you don't see the importers importing fusco's here. Maybe on special request.
My fusco is about 30cm or around 12inches. I sadly have to say that the past 2 weeks haven't been so good for him. Afraid he is getting a little old. He is having problems with his swimming bladder(air bladder??) what do you call this in english?
http://www.wimmels.com/visbestand/Nimbochromis_Fusco.jpg
this is him. If you want to see more have a look at the rest of my photo's. I intend to translate the site asap to english.
My fusco is about 30cm or around 12inches. I sadly have to say that the past 2 weeks haven't been so good for him. Afraid he is getting a little old. He is having problems with his swimming bladder(air bladder??) what do you call this in english?
http://www.wimmels.com/visbestand/Nimbochromis_Fusco.jpg
this is him. If you want to see more have a look at the rest of my photo's. I intend to translate the site asap to english.
I never kept any wild hemichromis.
So mike off for behavior a wild fish that has been growing for a couple of years, ie large enough to eat other fish will tend to eat the smaller fish if they can. Honestly I would say that the wild fish I do keep are more mellow towards other fish when I am around... BUT I think the key thing was when I am around. (Though I have a few that are just whimps.) Anyways I notice that my wild ones are the ones that hid more often when I am watching, or at least they aren't the ones in the middle of the tank trying to get fed when I am just sitting and watching. But I also noticed that they tend not to have nipped fins. Now does that mean they are very aggressive when I am not around? I mean I know that the real wimps all have nipped fins from the more aggressive ones going after them...
Anyways as for keeping wild caught. I honestly see only a few reasons too. 1) You just can't get them unless they are wild caught. 2.) You are breeding and want the extra bucks to say f1, or you just want to help keep the species true to its origin. 3.) You want to stroke your ego, ie being able to say I have wild caught fish...
I tend to only do mine for reason 1, since I really don't have the tanks to take breeding seriously. But that said I would never get say a wild caught christyi if I intended to put them in a tank with other smaller fish, I would just be afraid of them one night deciding to have a night snack. (Of course I still am afraid of my f1 christyi doing the same...)
So mike off for behavior a wild fish that has been growing for a couple of years, ie large enough to eat other fish will tend to eat the smaller fish if they can. Honestly I would say that the wild fish I do keep are more mellow towards other fish when I am around... BUT I think the key thing was when I am around. (Though I have a few that are just whimps.) Anyways I notice that my wild ones are the ones that hid more often when I am watching, or at least they aren't the ones in the middle of the tank trying to get fed when I am just sitting and watching. But I also noticed that they tend not to have nipped fins. Now does that mean they are very aggressive when I am not around? I mean I know that the real wimps all have nipped fins from the more aggressive ones going after them...
Anyways as for keeping wild caught. I honestly see only a few reasons too. 1) You just can't get them unless they are wild caught. 2.) You are breeding and want the extra bucks to say f1, or you just want to help keep the species true to its origin. 3.) You want to stroke your ego, ie being able to say I have wild caught fish...
I tend to only do mine for reason 1, since I really don't have the tanks to take breeding seriously. But that said I would never get say a wild caught christyi if I intended to put them in a tank with other smaller fish, I would just be afraid of them one night deciding to have a night snack. (Of course I still am afraid of my f1 christyi doing the same...)
Wimmels;1293436; said:
hey thats a really nice looking fish, im sorry to hear about it's problems, im really into tyrannochromis right,now, if you get a chance give them a try, it take longer for then to color up then fusco's, but there a cool fish to keep, im trying to figure out for myself just how many types there r, so im buying all i can find right now.
mike dunagan;1293324; said:
i would kinda agree, if were talking about all cichlids in general, but as for the hemichromis, which are know for being badasses, i have had domestic red jewees, kill 3 to 5 inch five star generals, that i got wild.