will tuesday the 13th be a good day or not

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pikey

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hey guys
this tuesday coming i have 2 new fish arriving straight from peru.
the piranha i'm talking about are large peru rhoms. i was looking at a importers peru list and noticed jumbo serrasalmus striolatus (black piranha) 34cm+ 5 in stock so my mate has requested the two largest ones :headbang2... i'm thinking they will come in as rhoms as i've been told this is just how there marked up by the peruvian's as striolatus....

anyway i hope i have better luck than last time i had 1 arrive in march (different importer) what turned out to be 427mm = 16inch it was a monster shame really came in really battered and burnt lived for a few weeks then one day it was just gone i was gutted... was it something i done wrong or was the fish just to far gone by the time it arrived......

the steps i taken to bring the rhom around were
opened the wooden box
removed the bag
opened the bag in a poly box and added 1 gallon of tank water (24c) to the bag
30 mins later i emptyed the bag in to the poly box adding another 2 gallons of tank water.
after about 1 hour later i changed about 50% of poly box water.
i then transfered the rhom to the tank after 3 hours of adjusting the fish to my water.
i put him in a 48x24x24 holding tank water temp 24C with api aquarium salt i had him in this tank for two weeks where he died....

so can anyone spot where i went wrong or anything they can add before my new rhoms arrive.

thanks
 
what kind of filtration were you using in the holding tank? water parameters?
 
jp80911;4053996; said:
what kind of filtration were you using in the holding tank? water parameters?
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i am using an fx5...
my prams are ok as for my nitrite nitrate and amonia... my ph is around 6.8. use the api liquid test kit

i keep other p with good sucsess and had other fresh imports like reds very small they were easy to deal with but that was my first fresh import on a good sized rhom and it went bad.....
i just hope the 2 arriving tuesday will be ok
 
the fish was probably stressed out and if it was packaged badly it just might not make it.
on the new ones, just make sure the tank is completely cycled, over filter and max out the bio media.
as for acclimating the fish, if you feel comfortable what your are doing then keep doing it.
I've read most people recommend doing it but also read sometimes its better to get the fish into nice clean water than let it remain in the toxic water it came in with, like in your case. I think it has to do with the ammonia toxicity at different temperature and different pH level, can't seem to find the thread but I think I read it here in MFK.
here's a link on ammonia toxicity.
http://dataguru.org/misc/aquarium/AmmoniaTox.html

I don't order fish online so what do I know....someone else probably has better idea.
best of luck on your new fish and post pix if it can make it
 
pikey;4054037; said:
i am using an fx5...
my prams are ok as for my nitrite nitrate and amonia... my ph is around 6.8. use the api liquid test kit

i keep other p with good sucsess and had other fresh imports like reds very small they were easy to deal with but that was my first fresh import on a good sized rhom and it went bad.....
i just hope the 2 arriving tuesday will be ok
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we need to know exactly what parameters of ammonia/nitrite/nitrate you had and then we can give you an idea of what may have killed the fish.You seem to take good care of your fish so im going to assume it probably was just so badly stressed from the trip to your aquarium that that's why it died but we can't be sure if you don't give us exact numbers as far as water params. are concerned

it may have also been infected with parasites (lots of imports are) this could have killed it too.

your pH sounds perfect for a rhom so that's definately not it.
 
jp80911;4054240; said:
the fish was probably stressed out and if it was packaged badly it just might not make it.
on the new ones, just make sure the tank is completely cycled, over filter and max out the bio media.
as for acclimating the fish, if you feel comfortable what your are doing then keep doing it.
I've read most people recommend doing it but also read sometimes its better to get the fish into nice clean water than let it remain in the toxic water it came in with, like in your case. I think it has to do with the ammonia toxicity at different temperature and different pH level, can't seem to find the thread but I think I read it here in MFK.
here's a link on ammonia toxicity.
http://dataguru.org/misc/aquarium/AmmoniaTox.html

I don't order fish online so what do I know....someone else probably has better idea.
best of luck on your new fish and post pix if it can make it
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thanks my tought the same tbh but then i was checking the fish every few hours to make sure it was ok and thought maybe it was stress and yes i'll keep up to date with the pics. so we can all follow there progress...
 
Zander_The_RBP;4054463; said:
we need to know exactly what parameters of ammonia/nitrite/nitrate you had and then we can give you an idea of what may have killed the fish.You seem to take good care of your fish so im going to assume it probably was just so badly stressed from the trip to your aquarium that that's why it died but we can't be sure if you don't give us exact numbers as far as water params. are concerned

it may have also been infected with parasites (lots of imports are) this could have killed it too.

your pH sounds perfect for a rhom so that's definately not it.
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i've just tested my water and my prams are the same really here u go

nitrate 5.0ppm
nitrite 0.0ppm
amonia 0.0ppm
ph 6.8 -7.0 ppm between the to colours on chart...
i hopes this helps a little
 
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