Wood/glass pond design, 2nd try

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droppingplatez808

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So this is my second shot at designing a cheaper pond (because of the expensive prices here in Hawaii). I posted a thread a couple of days ago with the initial design, but apparently I overlooked a few things in the design. http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=223675

I overlooked the fact that i would have wood underground, that would lead to rot and eventual EPIC failure. I was also told that the design would not be able to hold the amount of water i was planning on having in it. So i went back to the drawing board, looked at some more designs and took some of the advice and this is what i came up with.

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The design is basically ripped off of the one thread where he stacked 2x4s. I heard that it was really solid so I figured that it'd work for my purpose. The design idea is the same as the original, 12'x8'x4' with 3'above the ground and a 1' underground. This time there will be no wood underground. The wooden walls will be built around the perimeter of the hole dug in the ground.

I decided on 1/2" 2'x4' acrylic/plexigass windows based on anythingfish's calculator. Acrylic because its cheaper to ship and theoretically stronger than glass, which is what the calculator is originally used for, so technically that thickness of acrylic would be overkill compared to 1/2" thick plate glass. Sound good?

This next step is up in the air right now, but we were planning on putting plywood or cement board down along the bottom of the pond to make it solid and be sure that nothing sticks out of the dirt. Then we were planning on using old carpet or carpet padding as underlayment. And i know i might get hell for this, but the size of pond liner we need is estimated at 20'x24'. I found nothing locally. The ones i did find online cost no less than 400 dollars, and it cost just around 400 dollars to ship as well putting the grand total for liner at around 800 dollars. I don't know about you guys, but that shipping price sounds pretty ridiculous to me, unless that's normal (haha). So the alternative that we were considering is multiple layers of waterproof, uv treated tarp. I know it's been done before, but i was just worried about how long it might last before i have to replace it.

Let me know what you guys think. Thanks again.
 
yeah 3/4" would definitely be better. kinda scary thinking about all of the little kids in my extended family that come over for parties and stuff.. i can already see them banging on the 1/2" windows and i can't even imagine the possible results. but man, that 1/4" more is way more expensive. haha.
 
then you could make covers for the windows, should help with algae build up too.
 
what do you mean by covers for the window?

some thing like a removable protective screen to put over the window holes if there are kids around?
 
i would look a product like pond armour to seal it up.... google them it will take you right to there site... guys are very helpful and the product is great....
 
i know about pond armor, but how would you suggest i use it in my design? the design was meant to have some sort of pond liner and not an epoxy like my older design, so i'm having a hard time imagining what you're recommending.

this is only because my old design involved an epoxy type liner and having wood underground and the issue of wood rot was brought up.

the only way i can imagine using epoxy type pond liner in this design is if i use concrete board instead of plywood to line the insides of the pond and then epoxy it. is this what you had in mind?
 
The idea of a wood frame lined w/cemete board or Durarock, then epoxied gets the wheels turning on that one. Sounds like a lot of applications. However, would like someone to try this though....
 
droppingplatez808;2901602; said:
what do you mean by covers for the window?

some thing like a removable protective screen to put over the window holes if there are kids around?

exactly ;)you could also have em on during storms(to prevent anything hitting them) etc.
 
I like your design. It looks very similar to what I did. :)

I don't know about the bugs in Hawaii but in socal we have a real problem with termites. I have already found them living in the wood. :cry: So...I'm going to try and build another pond out of cinder blocks this summer.
 
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