would this stock listing work out for a 150 gallon tall

[Stoneyturtle420]

I currently have an endlicheri, delhezi, teugelsi, ornate, albino, and gray bichir along with a rope fish, a one eyed albino ruby oscar, a tiger oscar, a baby lemon oscar, 2 common plecos one 5 inches one 7, a green terror, 3 bala sharks, 7 red head tapajo, 2 baby jaguar cichlid, 2 firemouth, 3 pearl cichlid. All are still juvenile but would that stocking be okay for the 150 tall atleast long enough to get another tank set back up im setting up the tank tomorrow and moving everyone from their other tanks into that, running a marineland 360 and 220 with multiple sponge filters as well. Just curious on how well any of yall think this would work. Personally I think it should be good but always good to get multiple perspectives

 

[Blakewater]

There are so many issues that will arise from that stock I don't even know where to begin. Firstly, even as juveniles that tank is already overstocked in my opinion. The filtration turnover rate is going to need to be 5x+ just to put a dent in that as they begin growing and even then you'll be needing to do water changes every 3-4 days just to keep the nitrates from escalating. But thats just the tip of the iceberg, a ton of those fish are going to fight or prey upon your other fish and you can guarantee one or two of those cichlids will claim the whole tank and shove the rest into a corner. Eventually beating them up to death or forcing them to stay consistently stressed and underfed. More than likely, the jaguars.

I highly suggest you do more research before buying fish going forward because with the setup you posted my first reaction was that I honestly thought you were trolling with a fake, heavily unbalanced setup/stocklist to get a reaction.

My suggestion is you keep the bichirs, 4-5 of the geos, and two of the oscars. Even then you're going to have a very heavy bioload once they get big but if you do plan on upgrading they should be okay until then. And thats a generous stocking for that tank. I also advise you do not wait for problems to arrive before tackling the issues that are going to come because by then lots of unseen damage will already be done.

I understand it's very easy to go crazy when you see these fish as babies because even though you see a max size number, its still just a number. It's hard to truly understand just how much room each of those fish will take up until you have them in front of you day to day. Seeing pictures online often makes them seem smaller than they really are. I guarantee you, though, they will get big and some of those fish will get very territorial.

If you really insist on keeping all of those fish you are going to need 3 tanks around that size to house them all just for the first year or two of their life. Realistically, Jaguar cichlids need 180 gallons just for a pair of adults. Common Plecos also need at least a 180g tank as adults. If you decide to go that route post another thread about separating the stock and Im sure some master cichlid keepers can point you in the right direction.

Hoping the best for all your little guys

 

[tlindsey]

Tbh don't know if a 150 gallon tall is ok for Oscars. What is the dimension's of the aquarium. A 180 gallon would be 72"×2'×2' would be minimal for 2 adult Oscars agree with Blakewater .

 

[Stoneyturtle420]

48x24x31 for dimensions of the 150 tall, as I said though its until I get one of my other tanks set up again I plan on moving all my geos into one separate tank, the balas im planning on rehoming soon, the jaguars are gonna get to their own tank as well to where I have the oscars and the bichir into the 150, I have 4 sponge filters ima be running as well as I may put the Sunsun 304b on the tank as well to keep water turnover rated for double that tank volume

 

[Stoneyturtle420]

I'm aware its a overstocked set up im still learning everyday, as for research I do alot on the fish I have, every fish I did my research on to find out the requirements for them all including tank space and such. I don't intend the 150 for there permanent home i plan on starting a build for a plywood tank for 1000 gallons come winter, the 150 is temporary until i can set back up my 75 and 55 as well to house everyone smaller and keep my larger fish together. I know my oscars and green terror have been together for a while and they act like best of friends granted they are still small and things could change on a dime

 

[duanes]

I agree with the others.
As adults that tank will look like a sardine can with all those fish, but I suspect many will kill each other long before they reach adulthood.
I considera 150 adequate for two oscars and the bottom dwellers, no more fish (especially cichlids), or....
maybe the Geo's and other non-cichlids.or....
the two jags alone.
I'd say to keep all those fish as adults, you're going to need at least 5 more 150 gal tanks

 

[Stoneyturtle420]

I'm just tight on space for tanks, and the 150 is gonna be taking the place of my 75 which currently has 4 of the bichirs, rope fish, oscars, green terror, plecos and balas. Got a couple rosy barbs and a bunch of rosy red minnows swimming in there as food for my more active nocturnal guys and the oscars

 

[Stoneyturtle420]

Oh yeah and 1 redhead tapajo, 3 pearl, and 2 firemouths

 

[Stoneyturtle420]

I'm really not trying to come off as an idiot I'm aware of how big everyone I have will get, I've seen how big they are, once I'm able to get the plywood build done and set up ill be housing the bichir oscars green terror and possibly the jaguars in there, but that all depends on whether or not the jaguar would be okay with the oscars gt and bichir

 

[Gourami Swami]

You are going to have problems already, with the fish you have going into a 150g 4 foot tank. Unfortunately, I think you overdid it quite a bit buying fish. They may be small now and it doesn't look like much; but when the cichlids especially get large, not only will they likely kill each other in a tank stocked like that, the water will be very hard to keep clean. You would probably need to change water every day to keep it from becoming nasty degrading the fish's health, especially the oscars who are susceptible to HITH/HLLE.
A 1000 gallon plywood build sounds great, but oscars grow at about 1" per month. I'm not sure if you have built a tank before; if not a plywood 1k gallon is a huge endeavor that may not be done before the oscars are large. The 150 gallon won't hold your fish for more than probably 6 months i would predict.
And skip the jaguars, they are on a totally different level of aggression than oscars and the other fish you listed. They also prefer hard mineral-rich water with higher pH compared to most of your fish which prefer softer lower pH.
I think your energy should be spent researching the fish you already have and planning how you are going to house them, not be looking to buy more fish, until you actually have the tank for them and it's at your house full of water. We see a lot of overstocked tanks here and posters with pipe dreams of giant tanks that never happen. Not saying you cant make it happen, but to make it happen before your fish are in a bad situation, would be difficult to pull off for anybody. Just my .02