Where are you at? In Montery Park there is a place called BOB'S Tropical fish on Altantic Blvd and Beverly. Try them! And if you are near Riverside call Fish Fantansy on Arlington and Tyler. Ask for Boone on the first one, and ask for Pam on the second one. Either one can get what you are looking for and stuff that are not available in california. Its the way you ask them about it. If not they will give names and numbers of private parties.