Xanthic Jaguars

[Fishenvy]

Does anyone have any info on these fish?

I read they are sort of a rare species? Purchasing a pair and wanted some thoughts on what its gonna take to breed them.

They are 10" and have not yet spawned

 

[Rocksor]

You breed them like other jags. They do naturally occur in the wild from time to time, but don't last very long due to predation. It also looks like a xanthic pair was caught and line bred to retain the golden coloration.

Today in the Fishroom ~ Gold Managuense

Nah, nah Mo. You can't just post a pic of something like that and disappear? Where does it come from? How did you get them? Collection point? Travel tales? Are these the first ones in the hobby? I've never seen or heard of a gold Jag before.

www.monsterfishkeepers.com

 

[Fishenvy]

I've read here on MFK that the gold while similar and easily mistaken for the albino aka xanthic are not the same.

Any thoughts on that?

 

[Fishenvy]

You breed them like other jags.

Today in the Fishroom ~ Gold Managuense

Nah, nah Mo. You can't just post a pic of something like that and disappear? Where does it come from? How did you get them? Collection point? Travel tales? Are these the first ones in the hobby? I've never seen or heard of a gold Jag before.

www.monsterfishkeepers.com

I was told the current owner has kept them in a 75 with no luck.

I will be putting them into a 120 fatboy. Will the extra space be any help in any way to inhibit a spawn?

 

[Rocksor]

I've read here on MFK that the gold while similar and easily mistaken for the albino aka xanthic are not the same.

Any thoughts on that?

I can't tell the difference between the two

I was told the current owner has kept them in a 75 with no luck.

I will be putting them into a 120 fatboy. Will the extra space be any help in any way to inhibit a spawn?

Extra space can help alleviate stress by allowing you to physically divide the two areas, only allowing the female free range to go back and forth between the separated areas. Less stress, higher rate of spawning to occur.

 

[newworld]

Maybe they didn't spawn because they are 2 males?

 

[Magnus_Bane]

I've read here on MFK that the gold while similar and easily mistaken for the albino aka xanthic are not the same.

Any thoughts on that?

Xanthic generally have black/darker colored eyes while albinos will have either red, pink or blue eyes.
With these gold jags I would say they are most likely leucistic, meaning that they keep the natural eye coloration and are born a regular color but over time will either lose part or all of its natural overcoat color. What I mean by over coat color is that not all animals have just a single color coat. Take bullfrogs for example, bullfrogs are green with dark green spots. Now we all know that to make the color green you first need to combine the colors blue and yellow together. These blue and yellow colors are the undercoat color and the overcoat color respectively. When you see a leucistic bullfrog it's color is going to be a bright sapphire blue in color and the reason behind this is because of the leucism Gene preventing the yellow over coat colors from working. In the gold jags case I believe it is just like the bullfrog's except with the undercoat and overcoat colors switched around. So instead of the Jag turning blue it turns bright yellow/gold.

Another way to think about it is that leucism is "almost" exactly like albinism. Albinism prevents all pigment from forming while leucism only prevents part of the pigment from forming.

 

[Fishenvy]

Maybe they didn't spawn because they are 2 males?

Quite possibly could be..

 

[Fishenvy]

Extra space can help alleviate stress by allowing you to physically divide the two areas, only allowing the female free range to go back and forth between the separated areas. Less stress, higher rate of spawning to occur.

I was planning to give them a 120 fatboy. That's the biggest I can go where I live atm.

Would that be sufficient space given that they are 10"m

 

[Fishenvy]

You breed them like other jags. They do naturally occur in the wild from time to time, but don't last very long due to predation. It also looks like a xanthic pair was caught and line bred to retain the golden coloration.

Today in the Fishroom ~ Gold Managuense

Nah, nah Mo. You can't just post a pic of something like that and disappear? Where does it come from? How did you get them? Collection point? Travel tales? Are these the first ones in the hobby? I've never seen or heard of a gold Jag before.

www.monsterfishkeepers.com

I've never attempted to breed any fish at this size. Want to make sure I understand their temperament and what guidelines I should follow to ensure they stay safe and healthy during the process.