Was offered a nice pair of wild caught sub adult black throat monitors the other day for only $200 bucks for both including shipping.. Now I would rather have CB and Born monitors, but I havn't run accross any. So my question is what should I do, just wait till I find a nice captive bred pair or jump on these guys?
Your views on wild caught monitors?
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In my opinion you should wait for what you really want instead of settling. In the long run you will be much happier with CBB. In my experience wc monitors never really settle down. You will also be looking at some vet bills whether they have been checked for parasites or not. Just be patient and hold out for what you really want. They are out there from time to time. About a month ago there was a young pair for sale on Kingsnake. If you haven't tried yet you an also throw a wanted ad up on any of the major sites. People know people who have what you're looking for. With the ability to sooner or later obtain Captive bred I think it is a responsible move to not buy wild caught animals. Pay the extra cash to a breeder who has put forth the effort to reproduce these beasts under captive conditions. Patience is key. Keep looking and get an over the top enclosure setup and dialed in. For me that is the best part, along with the anticipation of acquiring what you always wanted.
My 2 cents and good luck with whatever you decide.
My 2 cents and good luck with whatever you decide.
this is what i think about WC monitors vs CBB monitors
What are you planning to due with it (pet or breeding) if its for a pet wait for CBB black/white throat. If your intentions are to breed them, then go for it as there are very few people breeding them.
It really depends on the species but if there are say a certain species that you are interested in and there are a few people breeding them then you have no reason to buy WC. Sadly most monitors are WC except for the Australian species as you cant export any animals from AU
For example i will use Argus, there are a good 5+ breeders of them that i know but 2 of them have animals that are related. Say you wanted to breed them, you have 5+ choices of people to get babies from and raise up vs buying an most likely not healthy animal from an importer.
Bryan
What are you planning to due with it (pet or breeding) if its for a pet wait for CBB black/white throat. If your intentions are to breed them, then go for it as there are very few people breeding them.
It really depends on the species but if there are say a certain species that you are interested in and there are a few people breeding them then you have no reason to buy WC. Sadly most monitors are WC except for the Australian species as you cant export any animals from AU
For example i will use Argus, there are a good 5+ breeders of them that i know but 2 of them have animals that are related. Say you wanted to breed them, you have 5+ choices of people to get babies from and raise up vs buying an most likely not healthy animal from an importer.
Bryan
Just a final note
Dont forget a few wild cauth every now and then into our captive populacions isnt bad for genetic diversity. Also if the locals of the places animals come from see that they can do some bucks out of them alive, they will be incentived to keep both the habitat and the animals around
Dont forget a few wild cauth every now and then into our captive populacions isnt bad for genetic diversity. Also if the locals of the places animals come from see that they can do some bucks out of them alive, they will be incentived to keep both the habitat and the animals around
that depends on what you intend to do.
if you're looking to breed, then I'd go for what is available. after all, all captive bred specimens orginated from wild caught parents.
but if you're simply a collector that's looking for a pet, then it's better off to get the captive bred animals.
if you're looking to breed, then I'd go for what is available. after all, all captive bred specimens orginated from wild caught parents.
but if you're simply a collector that's looking for a pet, then it's better off to get the captive bred animals.
IMO I would get it if you were a big time breeder looking to expand the gene pool but if you just want it as a pet I would rather get CBB.
I've had 3 WC monitors (dumerili, salvator, exanthematicus) and had zero problems with any of them. Got the sav as a hatchling, the water as a juvie, and the Dumeril's as a yearling (it had been at the shop for awhile). I'd not hesitate to buy a WC animal, though if I was buying online I might as I wouldn't have a chance to see the animal before I bought it.
First off, you are talking about Albigs, which WC are not that bad.
Now if we were talking an Indo/Aussie Monitor, that's different.
I was in this game back when that's all they had. WC. Loaded with ticks, parasites, etc.
You did your panacure, flagyl, pulled off the ticks, watched them close and you were fine. Of course the Waters had respiratory problems but other than that it wasn't that bad.
Even in this day and age, if you told me...oh...$400 for a CB Blue Tail or $150 for a WC. Give me WC anyday. It's not that bad. These aren't "delicate" animals and especially not your blackthroats.
Waters ok, thats the one exception. All your dwarfs with the exception of Timors are CB. Savs, Niles, Albigs, and most Indos are still WC.
Now if we were talking an Indo/Aussie Monitor, that's different.
I was in this game back when that's all they had. WC. Loaded with ticks, parasites, etc.
You did your panacure, flagyl, pulled off the ticks, watched them close and you were fine. Of course the Waters had respiratory problems but other than that it wasn't that bad.
Even in this day and age, if you told me...oh...$400 for a CB Blue Tail or $150 for a WC. Give me WC anyday. It's not that bad. These aren't "delicate" animals and especially not your blackthroats.
Waters ok, thats the one exception. All your dwarfs with the exception of Timors are CB. Savs, Niles, Albigs, and most Indos are still WC.