View Full Version : stingrays r not looking good?
bluedempsey
06-22-2005, 6:38 PM
i just recieved 2 motoro stingrays yesterday.... first of all i am not knew to keeping them. i have 2 leo's 1 tiger and hyst. i don't ever rush acclimation
but something was just not right :shakehead
they were really pale ..or so i thought .. right when i opened there containers
today 24 hours later they r not active at all :cry:
they refuse to eat
any sugestions :feedback:
i'm going out of my mind
please help
The TRUST
06-22-2005, 6:47 PM
man that sucks, where u get them from? LFS?
rayman45
06-22-2005, 6:48 PM
LIGHTS OFF
GIVE THEM ALOT OF DARKNESS
bluedempsey
06-22-2005, 7:03 PM
man that sucks, where u get them from? LFS?
got them from jeff rapps :cry:
The TRUST
06-22-2005, 7:05 PM
Have u tried talking to Jeff about it?
redtailfool
06-22-2005, 7:07 PM
First off make sure your water parameters are perfect ( low nitrates , 0 ammonia 0 nitrites) . But you keep rays like you said so i assume you already know that.
New rays sometimes dont eat.Dont worry thats normal. Just keep the lights off ( like rayman said ), and keep them separated from the world (tankmates included) at first.
Keeping them separated is a must when you get stressed out rays ( which i think you have ). At this point they are still spooked by the new environment and the last thing they need are additional stress from new tankmates . If they are in a high traffic area, i also cover the area with dark paper. Drop in some blackworms and relax and keep us updated. Motoros are pretty hardy so i wouldnt worry about it .
bluedempsey
06-22-2005, 7:13 PM
First off make sure your water parameters are perfect ( low nitrates , 0 ammonia 0 nitrites) . But you keep rays like you said so i assume you already know that.
New rays sometimes dont eat.Dont worry thats normal. Just keep the lights off ( like rayman said ), and keep them separated from the world (tankmates included) at first.
Keeping them separated is a must when you get stressed out rays ( which i think you have ). At this point they are still spooked by the new environment and the last thing they need are additional stress from new tankmates . If they are in a high traffic area, i also cover the area with dark paper. Drop in some blackworms and relax and keep us updated. Motoros are pretty hardy so i wouldnt worry about it .
cool thanks 4 all the info all of my other rays were nothing like these :screwy:
it just seems like they r fading by the minute
redtailfool
06-22-2005, 7:18 PM
cool thanks 4 all the info all of my other rays were nothing like these :screwy:
it just seems like they r fading by the minute
Its a game with rays. sometimes you get em feeding and literally jumping out straight off the box .Sometimes you get one that looks very healthy and then they die for no apparent reason. My theory that acclimating is 60% of what makes a ray "sensitive".
Just make sure you get them from a reputable seller and just relax... youre more than likely to make a wrong move if youre stressed yourself ( i know ive been there several times !) Can you take pics?
The TRUST
06-22-2005, 7:21 PM
man u guys are so calm. If it was me with rays I'd be freaking out now.
redtailfool
06-22-2005, 7:26 PM
You get used to rays acting up i guess :)
Didnt know Jeff Rapps sold rays.
The TRUST
06-22-2005, 7:30 PM
Jeff sold arapaimas also not too long ago.
No offense but I would've bought them from someone else, probably cheaper too.
From what I know, Jeff's pretty new to stingrays.
redtailfool
06-22-2005, 9:45 PM
Im pretty sure he can take care of his stingrays.
bluedempsey
06-23-2005, 3:44 PM
any one know how to reduce the size of a picture memory
i triied to upload a couple of pics but it says error file size to big
redtailfool
06-23-2005, 3:57 PM
Here are BD's stingray pics
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=2/medium/stingray1.jpg (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=2/medium/stingray1.jpg)
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=2/medium/stingray2.jpg (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=2/medium/stingray2.jpg)
bluedempsey
06-23-2005, 4:01 PM
Here are BD's stingray pics
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=2/medium/stingray1.jpg (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=2/medium/stingray1.jpg)
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=2/medium/stingray2.jpg (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=2/medium/stingray2.jpg)
the top pic is like an hour in
the bottom is 24 hrs later dead!
redtailfool
06-23-2005, 4:01 PM
The 1st pic is of a young motoro.
Try to get it on blackworms... it already has a dent on its forehead - a sign of malnutrition. You can also see the pelvic bones sticking out real prominently.
Dont know what specie the second ray is but its not motoro.
redtailfool
06-23-2005, 4:03 PM
So the motoro is still alive ? Have you tried feeding BW to it? It is really emaciated.
DeLgAdO
06-23-2005, 4:24 PM
why BW? why not something meatier like fresh prawns soaked in kent garlic extreme?
The TRUST
06-23-2005, 4:40 PM
Sorry to hear that they died :(
bluedempsey
06-23-2005, 5:00 PM
them one in the second picture is dead
The TRUST
06-23-2005, 5:03 PM
Sigh. That sucks balls :(
bluedempsey
06-23-2005, 5:07 PM
the top pic is like an hour in
the bottom is 24 hrs later dead!
look at the death curl :cry:
OMG......this is sad!!!!!!
I suspects your rays were not already sick when you bought them....if not, this shouldn't have happened!! Below is a thread i have just posted for new potential ray owners.........
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29874#post29874
bluedempsey
06-23-2005, 7:39 PM
OMG......this is sad!!!!!!
I suspects your rays were not already sick when you bought them....if not, this shouldn't have happened!! Below is a thread i have just posted for new potential ray owners.........
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29874#post29874
i got them tuesday they looked sick when i opened the bag
i got them tuesday they looked sick when i opened the bag
they must have suffered alot of stress during transportation! :shakehead
redtailfool
06-23-2005, 8:28 PM
why BW? why not something meatier like fresh prawns soaked in kent garlic extreme?
Blackworms are the best "starter" foods for rays that are newly acclimated.
They are tiny and easy to chew on and they have the tendency to float and land
everywhere, including the ray's spiracle where the ray gets to taste the worms accidentaly. Ive never had a healthy and acclimated ray refuse bw.
Blue - i was busy earlier and didnt fully understood what you posted. Sorry for the loss. Maybe you can ask the seller for compensation ?
DeLgAdO
06-24-2005, 1:20 PM
WHOA!! ok i see? wait, what do they look like? and dont just say "they look like worms!''
got a pic?
redtailfool
06-26-2005, 6:18 PM
Here you go
http://www.carolinapetsupply.com/images/blackworms1.jpg.jpeg
rayman45
06-26-2005, 6:47 PM
sorry to hear
ray are needy