Monster has a ton of cichla when I was there a few weeks ago, I'll have to take a trip back there. That LI expressway traffic gets crazy. Discus origin states that he has some nice wild intermedia and he is a trustworthy vendor. Well see, I'll probably grab a few for the collection. What other cichla do you have?If your looking for small to group up I'd get from rapps or monsters aquarium... They had small 3inchers. The São Paulo turned out to have smokin colors. Too bad they got sold all over the states so who knows who has them.