This is about Martinboys Piebald Zonatus

MartinBoy

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Here are some new pics! I put him back in with the others

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BayArea_510

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hey bro when u gunna sell some more zonatums i want more zonatums so i can keep the best out of a group, and the tail on your zonatum appears to have no scales
 

MartinBoy

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hey bro when u gunna sell some more zonatums i want more zonatums so i can keep the best out of a group, and the tail on your zonatum appears to have no scales
yes she does appear to be missing some scales now that I got a good look??? I'm hanging on to the zonatus I got for now and moving on to some festea grow outs for now. If you want to order another batch of zonatus you could probably talk me into splitn it with ya
 

BayArea_510

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yes she does appear to be missing some scales now that I got a good look??? I'm hanging on to the zonatus I got for now and moving on to some festea grow outs for now. If you want to order another batch of zonatus you could probably talk me into splitn it with ya
yeah i will let you knnow i pan on ordering some more zonatus and texas from him
 

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yes she does appear to be missing some scales now that I got a good look???
You just noticed that now? It looks like more than just scales that are missing, you might want to reconsider keeping that fish in with the others.
 

Madness

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You just noticed that now? It looks like more than just scales that are missing, you might want to reconsider keeping that fish in with the others.
Ya think. How can that not be obvious? I say your Zo, has issues, and its not the piebold kind.
 

WildCAught

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What evidence - other than Don telling you - that the parents of the fish are wild?

I'd assume that whatever possible genetic sport that resulted in this mutation, that it would be recessive. And wouldn't show up unless both parents hold this recessive gene / mutation. That two random, wild fish would have this extremely unusual mutation seems to be pretty unlikely...

Siblings from pond / captive breeding, on the other hand...

Matt
Matt, although I don't disagree with your skepticism, you'd be surprised how small and densely populated some rivers, streams, ponds are. It is not too far of a stretch to think that you could collect siblings in the same locale.
My skepticism is also stemming from the source. Although I've heard don has some nice fish I've also heard inconsistent stories from customers throughout the years.
To op, great looking fish.
 

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all my pairs have their own tanks so there wasnt any chance of that.
Call me cynical, but when I see a breeder that not only tends to breed & sell a lot of man made hybrids, but also purposely crosses CA species, and then sells the hybrid offspring, I have a difficult time accepting that this same seller played no part in creating these piebalds. I could be wrong, but it sure don't look good bro.

Took out almost all my fish now I'm going to breed my Fenestratus with a synispilum

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?269710-My-450-gallon-tank-for-Fenestratus

Up date pics of Fenestratus x Blackbelt

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?268737-Up-date-pics-of-FenestratusxBlackbelt

Fenestratus x Blackbelt fry,Florida,$2.00each will ship

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...us-x-Blackbelt-fry-Florida-2-00each-will-ship
 

TMSB805

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Call me cynical, but when I see a breeder that not only tends to breed & sell a lot of man made hybrids, but also purposely crosses CA species, and then sells the hybrid offspring, I have a difficult time accepting that this same seller played no part in creating these piebalds. I could be wrong, but it sure don't look good bro.

Took out almost all my fish now I'm going to breed my Fenestratus with a synispilum

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?269710-My-450-gallon-tank-for-Fenestratus

Up date pics of Fenestratus x Blackbelt

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?268737-Up-date-pics-of-FenestratusxBlackbelt

Fenestratus x Blackbelt fry,Florida,$2.00each will ship

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...us-x-Blackbelt-fry-Florida-2-00each-will-ship
Again........hmmmmm....
 

Madness

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I dont get it, why do people get off on crossing fish and then distributing those damn things out into the public? WTF.
 
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