saw of few of these guys at a fish store near my house, maybe three to four inches a piece, very cute at that size if you ask me. i just think it's kind of messed up to offer a fish that will get that huge for so cheap, and probably without letting people know they are a bad choice unless you are willing to put the time and money and space into raising them...just pisses me off is all, to know that probably none of those little guys will get the care they deserve...just blowing off a little steam i guess