yea i know semper fish tell me about it!!, its where i get all my stuff. He just has a little different ways when it comes to selling stuff. he wants it out, he doesnt want to sit around and wait forever for that one person to buy it for a high price, know what i mean. His names carl, he just bought out a whole entire LFS(marine king) im going to get some killer deals on refugiums, wet/drys, tanks, etc. i love that store man. I bought a complete wet/dry from him for 50 bucks. All it need was a top for the spray bar to sit in. Traded it for a 60GB ipod!!!after i made a top for it