Basstank, I think best thing is just don't go to his property anymore if the property owner don't want be liable if you or someone got hurt on his property and he knows you guys are treaspassing and he did say no to you. Best thing to do is don't go to his property anymore.He told us he just didn't wanna be liable if someone got hurt. That so he said no but then told us he wouldn't do anything if we were there. So he basically said yes...