Gars and Rays

[ultimatejay]

Why would you put an angelfish with a ray to begin with? I have had many fish with rays and have had no problems with rays attacking them, but then again I didn't have slow moving weak defenseless fish half the size in with them either. And I have kept several gars with them too with no problems.

You guys have to use common sense once in awhile when mixing predatory fish, like keeping all the sizes of the fish equal and the fish that are less aggressive you want them larger. EX: Don't put a 10-12"+ disc ray with a 4" angelfish. Don't put a 3" red devil with a 14" redtail catfish. GET IT!

 

[Gr8KarmaSF]

well DARNIT Gr8 i just put all the links into word to post it here! Stealing my thunder, eh?
*fart* oh wait there it is

Sory...lol

Why would you put an angelfish with a ray to begin with? I have had many fish with rays and have had no problems with rays attacking them, but then again I didn't have slow moving weak defenseless fish half the size in with them either. And I have kept several gars with them too with no problems.

You guys have to use common sense once in awhile when mixing predatory fish, like keeping all the sizes of the fish equal and the fish that are less aggressive you want them larger. EX: Don't put a 10-12"+ disc ray with a 4" angelfish. Don't put a 3" red devil with a 14" redtail catfish. GET IT!

Check out the date, it was way back when i didnt know any better!

 

[Miguel]

I've seen a Gar bite the tail of a Motoro. And the Gar was smaller.

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

this mix can be done. I personnally am gonna try it soon. Just have to be care full and be ready to seperate. Many people try and have this successfully work. Big question is do you have the guts to try it? Jk
try it if you want.

 

[Tom500]

Tom, I just bumped a few old threads in the ray forum regarding this issue, check it out!

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27278
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27531
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36188

Thanks a lot for the threads there a real help, i dont plan on keeping a small gar with a large ray or any small fsh with the rays maybe a 20" gar with 12" rays, i know they will grow but so will the gar.

 

[Tom500]

this mix can be done. I personnally am gonna try it soon. Just have to be care full and be ready to seperate. Many people try and have this successfully work. Big question is do you have the guts to try it? Jk
try it if you want.

I think i will only trouble is i am wanting marble motoros and leopoldi these are fairly rare and expensive, if i start on a cheap motoro and it works, will it be ok if i swap the motoro for a leo or marble or will the gar react differently to another ray.

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

heh, there is no way to tell what gars or any fish for that matter will behave. maybe. maybe the gar wont like the color of the ray. or maybe the new ray wont like the colors or look of the gar. there is too many variables. But chances are if the gar is fine with the ray it probably will be ok with other rays. but it really boils down to you have to be willing to try and ready to seperate my friend.

 

[Tom500]

Well i have a spare 48x24x18 on standby all the time incase of ill fish angry fish so i would separate. I might try it i think i will get a gar and a marble motoro to start with then if thats ok for a few months with no trouble ill progress to a leopoldi or something.

 

[Bartkee]

no problem,
just depends on which ray and which gar and which size.
as for rays, motoro and leo´s are the more aggresive type, and they can grow very big. i have 2 potamotrygon hystrix with 2 lepisosteus oculatus (spotted gar).
they dont bother eatch other at all! i would say perfect tankmates.
the rays are 5 inch and de gar 7 inch.
gator gars are a different storie,
the are unpredictable and will kill anything in the end.

 

[Tom500]

I am looking at keeping a spotted or florida gar and i was looking at either thorny river stingray, flower ray, tiger ray(then upgrade them to an 800G pond when bigger) leopoldi, marble motoro. ??