Is there a trick to keeping fancy goldfish?

[Quo Vadis]

One more thing, keep the multiple rocks out of your hex! Use a select, maybe one or two, no more. They are detritus traps and take away room from your goldfish.

I used one big round rock the size of a volleyball, and two smaller round rocks the size of softballs, with sand for the substrate.

 

[note2self]

Interesting stuff in this thread. I knew goldfish would be an issue in a planted tank but I like their look and personality so I want to give it a go. Are there any species of goldfish that won't nibble at the plants?

 

[FMA4ME]

I used one big round rock the size of a volleyball, and two smaller round rocks the size of softballs, with sand for the substrate.

Whoa, that sounds like a lot of weight.

 

[Quo Vadis]

I don't know of any goldfish that won't bother plants, though probably the fancier they are the more difficult it would be for them.

Re the rocks, I use foam or egg crate underneath to help spread out the weight.

 

[calichai]

For me, the key was to quarantine new pieces. When I first got into them, they were cheap enough that I didn't bother quarantine. The new guy would bring some bug in, survive, but kill my older guys. It was a sad lesson and a rookie fish keeping mistake. Fancy Goldie's in particular, are prone for bacterial infection, and fungus. Well from my experience. The fancier the more susceptible. I was struggling with bubble eyes until I have them their own tank, low flow, and good filtration covered in sponges for example.


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[Redearsunfish]

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I have always heard/read 20g for the first goldy, and 10g for each additional one which is what I figured it at (20g+10gx5=70g). I'm sure more space is better, but that is what I based my stocking on. So as they get bigger if I think they are too crowded I may sell some, since big goldfish are easy to get rid of, or I may not. I will be doing a sump though, so it will be closer to 100g total water than 75g, and I keep large quantities of pothos, etc., in all my tanks so they usually keep nitrates quite low. I know fish keeping ideals shouldn't be based on comparison, but I figured that 6 of them in a well maintained 75g (getting regular WCs) would be far better off than most goldfish from Petsmart that end up crammed into the typical 10g.

Here is a links to some Goldfish planted tank keepers on Instagram:

https://instagram.com/aliciasgoldfish/

And here is a link to an article I based my hardscape on: http://www.tfhmagazine.com/freshwat...ut-for-fancy-goldfish-part-2-full-article.htm

Your system sounds fine, but the footprint is a problem and not necessarily the water volume. But you should be ok for a while. But if you have male orandas you'll have a problem for space soon enough.

20 + 10 gallons is a terrible rule! Don't follow it.

 

[Redearsunfish]

I have always heard/read 20g for the first goldy, and 10g for each additional one which is what I figured it at (20g+10gx5=70g). I'm sure more space is better, but that is what I based my stocking on. So as they get bigger if I think they are too crowded I may sell some, since big goldfish are easy to get rid of, or I may not. I will be doing a sump though, so it will be closer to 100g total water than 75g, and I keep large quantities of pothos, etc., in all my tanks so they usually keep nitrates quite low. I know fish keeping ideals shouldn't be based on comparison, but I figured that 6 of them in a well maintained 75g (getting regular WCs) would be far better off than most goldfish from Petsmart that end up crammed into the typical 10g.

Here is a links to some Goldfish planted tank keepers on Instagram:

https://instagram.com/aliciasgoldfish/

And here is a link to an article I based my hardscape on: http://www.tfhmagazine.com/freshwat...ut-for-fancy-goldfish-part-2-full-article.htm

By the way Jeff does great work but his goldfish tank is unsustainable in the long term without a lot of maintenance. Too many fish and too many rocks in my opinion.

Short term sure, long term no.