mines smaller than most of the pictures we have both seen my friend.@cal, I know you say that only a few will turn white, alot of people do. But where is the proof of this?
All the adult xingus I have seen have been white/gray, both pics from the hobby and from the wild.
I just have a feeling the white type is so rare only because pretty much no one owns adult specimens.
Yes, that ray is thomas peters. And it turned white... You have even posted a pic of it in this thread? I belive it was called "white xingu star" back then. And he was breeding hybrids as he only had a female as far as I remember.but maybe you have not seen the post on mfk a few years back when a fellow out in europe bred xingus and his breeder sized female was not white!