Im addicted to fronts now. I just love them, its the colors and humps that do it for me , plus their adult size. I just love giant cichlids. I saw a pic of one (more than one really) that was so large . You know the white plastic or pvc hard patio chairs , the cheap ones. THey make a little short table (about one foot or slightly bigger high and wide.) This fish was bigger than that table , they put that into the tank to use as a cave for him. He was a monster. I will try to look up the thread and post a link, it was from another site so i hope its ok.