Stingrays restricted in FL, anyone know a way around it?

Warrensmentor

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My wife wants to move to florida which is cool, but they have freshwater rays set as restricted which means by permit. Three ways it says, commercial, public viewing, or research. Anyone know how I can reasonably meet the requirements to get a permit? Anyone know what the consequences of having rays without a permit?

Thanks, I don't want to think about a world without rays.

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PeteLockwood

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Chances of permit: zero
Consequences: big fine, animals taken away and another step towards getting rays banned in other states.
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My wife wants to move to florida which is cool, but they have freshwater rays set as restricted which means by permit. Three ways it says, commercial, public viewing, or research. Anyone know how I can reasonably meet the requirements to get a permit? Anyone know what the consequences of having rays without a permit?

Thanks, I don't want to think about a world without rays.

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Sorry to hear that, thats too bad. Im sure youll find away around it, there are a ton of intelligent ray keepers on here!




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MonsterMinis

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geta new wife? jk jk.... why i encourage my husband to stay in wi.... not much is illegal here.
 

Zoodiver

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There is NO WAY to get them into the state legally as a hobbiest. End of story.
Even public aquariums don't bother getting the permits here (for the most part) due to all the legal hoops they have to jump through.
(Spoken as a FW ray guy and as a public aquarium permit guy in the state of FL.)
 

lungfishlover

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Chances of permit: zero
Consequences: big fine, animals taken away and another step towards getting rays banned in other states.
Alternative: Dasyatis sabina
interestingly im sure i read somewhere a while back about a guy claiming that there is a population of these that live in a river thats completely FW so may be something to look into.

before anyone calls BS im 99% sure thats what i read!
 

Zoodiver

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Oh yes, there is a FW population. The thing that needs to be understood is that in order to live in FW, they excrete exponential amounts of urea/ammonia to stay in fresh. That being said, you are looking at 10 or 15 times the volume you'd typically need to offset 1 animal's waste.

Typically they die after about 6-9 months in FW captive settings. They do best if converted to saltwater.

And when looking at your budget, it's often cheaper just to do a marine set up.
 
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