Denitrator, Denitrate, and Denitration equipment...

[rkc772]

I have been reading about some type of filtration or bio-filter to lessen water changes. honestly i really don't mind doing water change but if you can do it once a month or at least less than once a week i think our fish will stay happier rather than every week we bug them to move around and put new water.

denitrator, denitrate, and denitration... all the same concepts. basically it an anaerobic colonization of bacteria to take out nitrates or reduce it to the least possible value. their are several websites that are selling these stuffs. has anyone used them or has been using them? any improvement at all (honestly?)?

i know plants will help but having 11 datnoids and growing fast. i think i would need a bunch of plants on my new 180 which i don't want of too much.

 

[Kenta]

I think those things give you a false sense of security. Nitrates are only an indicator of the levels of general pollutants in the tank. There are a whole whack load of pollutants that only weekly water changes will remove, not to mention add vital elements back into the water.

Sorry, but, IMO, theres no way around weekly water changes

 

[DeLgAdO]

I think those things give you a false sense of security. Nitrates are only an indicator of the levels of general pollutants in the tank. There are a whole whack load of pollutants that only weekly water changes will remove, not to mention add vital elements back into the water.

Sorry, but, IMO, theres no way around weekly water changes

it has to work

i mean think about it


how do the worlds oceans process nitrate??

rivers all dump there water into the ocean (and rivers with vast amounts of life and the waste they produce)

and you would think that with all the life in the ocean and after million years.......yea you get the idea........

the ocean volume is vast but its not unlimited, so its getting processed somehow in someway.


anyone see where this is going?

 

[rhinod56]

its an open source, everytime it rains, its adding fresh water and nutrients....
can't imagine a larger body of water with access to trees, plants, reefs, etc to help clean all the fish poo...lol
I can see both sides I guess, but can't really compare a small fish tank even a larger one at a zoo or anything to the ocean and worlds waterways...
imo

 

[Fry]

won't know until we try

 

[moxxommox]

the lot of ya

IMO I wouldn't rely on those autmatic fantastic new, never have to change the water or anything up to 75% less time water changing devices.

my BS alert goes way off with that. it might work, don't get me wrong, but I think you should continue to do water changes aswell as having that *thing* on it.

that's just me!

 

[Kenta]

it has to work

i mean think about it


how do the worlds oceans process nitrate??

rivers all dump there water into the ocean (and rivers with vast amounts of life and the waste they produce)

and you would think that with all the life in the ocean and after million years.......yea you get the idea........

the ocean volume is vast but its not unlimited, so its getting processed somehow in someway.


anyone see where this is going?

There is no way you can compare oceans of the world to aquariums. They are two completely different systems.

What i was trying to say was denitrators may drastically reduce nitrates, but that in no way means lesser water changes.

Weekly water changes are the bottom line

 

[JardiniBoy]

What are your nitrate readings at the moment? ... and your water change schedule and volume?

 

[beblondie]

Nitrate is only the end product of the nitrogen cycle as pointed out theres a lot of waste NOT broken down and the only way to rid them is waterchanges.
Another thing tio consider a denitrator requires a very low flow of water to acomplih its mission and if something goes wrong it can release hydrogen sulfide gas into your water
colum.Something not addressed is the pH of a tank with weekly water changes tend to be alot more stable then doing a large monthly change.really theres a lot of crap that claims to do this and do that just so you can be lazy about waterchanges.weekly waterchanges learn to do it and then practice it-Anne

 

[HarleyK]

Howdy,

What Anne said: Learn to do it and then practice it: There is no way around water changes.

I think you got a bit too overexcited about this thread
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29143
What I said there holds true for your current question as well.

A denitrator is useful for one condition only: If your tap water has high nitrate levels and you cannot afford/house/run an R/O unit.

As for the oceans comparison: One word: Biodiversity! We will never be able to reconstruct the complex ecosystems of nature in an aqaurium. That's why we need water changes.

HarleyK




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