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The free engineering shop has closed due to the pompous know-it-alls such as Dannyboy in the above post.
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$hit, is that a tank on the top? :eek: :WHOA: Damn i thought it was just the two tanks side by side above the sump, i couldnt make it out properly (i blame my eye sight)

i did say
not sure, cant realy see whats going on in that plan

and i guess i learnt my lesson big time, NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING!!!

as far as being a "pompous know-it-all", well im not, im just a dumb *** (and a stupid one at that)

Sorry arlo, ignore all my advice, i didnt see the pic properly
 
np and since u couldnt see it he probably doesnt think ure a pompous lol pompous is such a *** word
 
...as far as being a "pompous know-it-all", well im not, im just a dumb *** (and a stupid one at that)

Danny, you didn't carve out your reputation in this thread. Just so you know, I saw your posts before they were moderated on that other thread. That guy was here looking for help, not your heckling. People with problems are not here for your ammusement. People do not forget these things. That is why I did not respond when you posted that obsurd tank stand. It is obsurd because it is not something that anyone would put in thier house; I knew you had no intention of building that thing. I was not surprised when you said you later bought it (though it made no sense that someone would just happen to have such a design). I was surprised however how quickly you admitted that you didn't even buy it.

What I still want to know is...why are you still trolling the DIY board when you have nothing to add? :screwy:
 
Cinder Blocks and 4x4's seem pretty sturdy to me.. I have stacked them quite frequently.. Just make sure you're on a secure floor and strap those 4x4s in :) If that tank is a 125 though, and is 18" deep, it might be more difficult to work with.

If you're worried about it toppling over, figure out where the studs in the wall are at, and get some very long screws.. Go up at an angle.. Never have I had any problems.

They will screw up your carpet long-term though.

Here is 4x55g in my apartment bedroom from a while back..

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I have to agree. It is a good idea but not pratical. Stands work beacuse the pressure of our tanks is speard out over a big surface. haveing 3 main points would put alot of stress on the ground in those areas. Also if it happens to have any flaws at all, like chompers said, u or sum1 else may die or get injured. Maybe re think your desing a lil bit and test it as Chompers said. and if u were to do that it would be waaaaaaaaaaaay too top heavy. and wobble at all might cause it to come crashing down. Also u have to figure out how much your floor can support and if it is level.

It really makes my day to see someone that gets it :woot: Thanks

I could never do this in my room cuz i have a slight slant for sum reason to one side of the room...
Since you are in California, it could be from several reasons:
1. During earthquakes, the ground can be described with having liquid properties. The difference in ground densities from one end of the house to the other could allow raising or sinking in parts of the house.
2. If your house is built on stilts on the side of a hill... Gravity always wins, need I say more.
3. If your house is wood frame with a basement, the sill plate or beam that your room is sitting on could have some decay.

None of these are anything to immediately worry about. It is just food for thought.


How much can cinder block support?
A bunch. I don't have the numbers and I can't get to my books to look it up. In a week or two I will post it if no one else does. They are stronger with the holes up and down rather than sideways.

How steardy are cydler block stacked?
They are sturdiest in smaller stacks. The foot print of each block is wide in comparison to its height. Each block unto its own is very stable. As they are stacked, they lose that stability. The footprint to height ratio is reduced dramatically. Think of leverage. The taller the stack is, the easier it will be to topple.

How much is the tank going to weigh?
8.3 pounds per gallon, and 7.6 gallons per square foot.
 
...is there any way i can re-arrange my plans so it would actually work? like maybe have the heavier tank towards the bottom and 10 and the 30 on th top? ...
Yes, that would be much better. If you still want to use cinder blocks, put 4x4's down each row of holes and bolt each tank shelf to the wall. The bolt holes can later be filled when you remove the stand. If you are in an earthquake prone area then your design needs to take this into account.
 
...what is a subfloor???
Most homes are wood construction over a basement. You do not have a state listed in your location, so I have no idea how to guess the construction of your house. By your city, I would say there is a higher probability that you are in the Northeast part of the US. But that still does not help.

Any way, to answer the question... a subfloor is the first layer of flooring (usually plywood) over the floor joists (the 2x6's, 8's, or whatever is in there). I am not a civil engineer and I do not have one at hand that I can ask, so this is my best answer. Lets just say that your floor is standard hardwood flooring. The strength of the floor does not come from the hardwood flooring, but the subfloor that it is nailed to.

If your house is constructed on a concrete slab, then you have nothing to worry about. It will support more than you can throw at it.
 
... does anyone know how much cinderblocks cost?

They were fifty cents back when I first started pricing them. Now they are around two bucks each :screwy: But that is at my local home depot. Construction materials vary widely depending on what part of the country you live in. If you can wait and are in a growing area, ask for any spares at construction sites (residential mostly).
 
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