Silver Arows may be banned in coming years!

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It's a good idea to breed them absolutely:thumbsup:
Lots of you guys live in tropical temperatures, and have the possibility to have them in outside ponds. I think that's the way to go.
 
i agree with vitality. we need to up the price of fish that would sway people into taking better care of them. and to add to that, decrease prices of tanks and filters, that would help ME alot. :)
 
Vitaliy said:
Shekes, you do not control the supply and demand with a price hike nor a tax. I think introducing a law that would harshly limit the number of exported fish, and that is possible to enforce as this is done on regular basis especially with fish relating to food supply. With only a few fish being available, yet the demand still being there, this results in a price going up. You end up helping out the wild population and helping more fish go into proper homes.

That may in fact lead to crime and poaching but the number of illegal exports will be nowhere near what the numbers are today.
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Then it would be this law you want to introduce that would protect the survival or the wild Aros and not the price. The price increase would be a consequence. Desirable one to you and most undesirable INMSHO. Law/ban/prohibition would be the only solution and the whole debate boils down to you expressing yourself a bit sloppy. :grinyes:
 
DeLgAdO said:
no no no

provide the hobby with captive bred fish.

and actually do it with care and without the motive of making a quick buck
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But the hobby DOES need to replenish wild populations of Aros, because that's why the Asians were banned and I don't want to see another Arowana banned....

BUT the hobby does SERIOUSLY need this to happen too....How big of a tank do you think you would need for this???
 
DeLgAdO said:
why do they kill the male???

why dont they just open his mouth and dump the kids like they do asian aros???
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kriztu said:
Del, those fisher-folks dont care. before they used to sell the huge males in the market for eating but then they just abandoned that altogether! selling and killing is faster and more profitable. plus these people have not been educated about conservation, unlike singapore farms where they expect future profits from breeding the fishes regularly. these natives are not breeders, they just go in the jungle, collect and sell....really very sad. ive seen a footage of two indians bang a male silver with a paddle and pick up the little babies and put them in a rusty tin can...you really dont wanna see bro, believe me....
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That's the biggest problem... If you kill the brooding parents, you threaten the wild population NOW, not only the next generation. And it's easier than catch the male and open his muth to retrieve the fry. Just kill it and cut his jaw off... :WHOA: :WHOA: :WHOA:

Best regards.

Daniel.
 
meiling said:
Face it, we are dealing with pets that hail from 3rd world countries where survival is a way of life even for humans. Those from places like the USA have never seen the plight or smelled the stench of these places. It comes down to educating the native people, there's a group call "Madagascar Fauna Group", their goal it to stop the extinction of lemurs, same situation in that country. First and foremost, they teach the people other ways to find food, harvest, provide clean drinking water, etc.

We have food, a roof over our heads and know we'll probably eat tomorrow. The people in these remote places dont have that. They will do anything to get that. Arowana's feed them or make them money. We are all involved from catching them to having them in our Aquariums. Human Impact. So, it's a time to pull together and address the problem, I can't imagine there aren't already research projects funded by universities. It's easy tp play with our pets and type our thoughts into the computer.

The real world is cold, hard and cruel. People are responsible for so many extinctions, granted unaware until it was too late in most cases.

It would break my heart to watch something so beautiful and precious go extinct in my lifetime. I think the killing of these males is horrible. the only answer is education which takes time. Darwinism has turned to humanism.
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:iagree: Totally. :thumbsup:

gomezladdams said:
It would be great if there was a project to teach those collectors responsible collecting techniques like what they are trying to do to stop the coral reef destruction by saltwater collectors.Having a way to document fish were collected by approved methods then sold through channels that could ensure the fish that were collected this way were the ones you actually bought would be a better option.
Teaching the collectors that thier livlyhood depends on not driving the aros into extinction,and keepers that buying a "tagged" approved fish is a better purchase is the route that has the best chance of working out
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meiling said:
Well put. This is the path to the solution.
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:iagree: The main problem is that silver aros are considered a FOOD fish here in Brazil (second-grade, but still a food fish), and the government thinks it's a priority over the fishkeeping hobby. This means that there are "rules", like "minimum size allowed", that can't fit in the hobbyist's needs. The minimum size an aro can LEGALLY be fished (I can't remember exactly now...) is bigger than the sexual maturation size. The same applies to sevral other species, including the arapaima. How can a fish with such restrictions be collected as a juvenile?
It's called "double pressure"... Harvesting both the adult (food) and juvenile (hobby) populations at the same time.

Best regards.

Daniel.
 
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