Pbass eating pellets

[JuanTamad]

that is incorrect. Never starv cichla


Trainning for pellets is the same as trainning for any other food item.

edit- also, IME feeding pellets will bring poorer color. Feeding whole fish or live is best.

"Never" is a very restrictive word. Sometimes, starving them a few days is the only thing that will work. Depends on how the cichla was raised. If they are wild caught it might be the only thing that may work.

Not all fish are the same. Not even cichla of the same specie will behave the same way when it comes to eating. It all depends.......

 

[PeacockBass]

"Never" is a very restrictive word. Sometimes, starving them a few days is the only thing that will work. Depends on how the cichla was raised. If they are wild caught it might be the only thing that may work.

Not all fish are the same. Not even cichla of the same specie will behave the same way when it comes to eating. It all depends.......

Incorrect. Its all on presentation of the food. CIchla want to eat live. not dead. If you can make the pellets seem live, or feed them in the same fassion you feed live, then it will work out.

THe problem is most people think that they can just starv the fish, and drop the pellets in the tank and all will be well... sorry, doesnt work like that.

I have never had to starv a cichla... wild caught or tank bred. And I have had.... alot....

btw- most wild caught cichla have already been starved enough, the last thing you want to do with them is make them go longer without food.


check my name, it says PeacockBass

 

[Steve_89]

Incorrect. Its all on presentation of the food. CIchla want to eat live. not dead. If you can make the pellets seem live, or feed them in the same fassion you feed live, then it will work out.

That has not worked for me on numerous occasions. For both pellets and other prepared foods.

Starving has worked for me though.

Bottom line is you can chose to use either method...if one fails...use the other.

 

[Steve_89]

THe problem is most people think that they can just starv the fish, and drop the pellets in the tank and all will be well... sorry, doesnt work like that.

Same thing applies for your method...just because you make the pellets look alive...doesn't mean they will eat them...

My cichla will put anything in their mouth..whether they swallow it or not is another story.

 

[polomax24]

What's so hard about getting pbass to eat pellets???? The two I have both eat pellets like there is no tomorrow. Just mix frozen food with pellets in warm water, and dump them in at the same time. After a few weeks, they will learn how to eat pellets. (Just make sure you already have other fish in the tank that already eats pellets)

 

[JuanTamad]

Incorrect. Its all on presentation of the food. CIchla want to eat live. not dead. If you can make the pellets seem live, or feed them in the same fassion you feed live, then it will work out.

THe problem is most people think that they can just starv the fish, and drop the pellets in the tank and all will be well... sorry, doesnt work like that.

I have never had to starv a cichla... wild caught or tank bred. And I have had.... alot....

btw- most wild caught cichla have already been starved enough, the last thing you want to do with them is make them go longer without food.


check my name, it says PeacockBass

Just because your name is PeacockBass, does make u know evrything there is to know about peacock bass. How many is a lot?

It is never a good idea to generalize and try to impose your own experience on other people's way of doing things.

I've raised many thousands of PB from all sizes. From wigglers to monsters size of 20 inch or more. And not all of them behave the same way eventhough they come from the same body of water.

You have been lucky. Your presentation you say? Don't know about that...

My name may not be PeacockBass but I have news for you I know my Peacock Bass better than you do.

You say never starve a peacock bass? That's a nice concept, but that's what you might end up doing when your presentation does not work. I can tell you are a very skilled salesperson who thinks it's all about the presentation.

 

[PeacockBass]

That has not worked for me on numerous occasions. For both pellets and other prepared foods.

Starving has worked for me though.

Bottom line is you can chose to use either method...if one fails...use the other.

Thats all well and great but there are certain proven problems with starving cichla under 6-8 inches. Such as limited growth and poor color.

This was a huge deal back a few years ago.

Same thing applies for your method...just because you make the pellets look alive...doesn't mean they will eat them...

My cichla will put anything in their mouth..whether they swallow it or not is another story.

That is part of the trainning proccess, most of the time cichla will spit out the pellet at first. This is generally due to the texture of the pellet.

What's so hard about getting pbass to eat pellets???? The two I have both eat pellets like there is no tomorrow. Just mix frozen food with pellets in warm water, and dump them in at the same time. After a few weeks, they will learn how to eat pellets. (Just make sure you already have other fish in the tank that already eats pellets)

It is hard simply because these fish are programmed for 1 thing.... eating live fish. You make an extremely valid point with adding other fish that eat pellets in with the cichla when trainnning. Oscars make the best tankmates for this.

Generally people will just toss 1-3 cichla in tank and expect them to be lively and beg for food... this is hardly the case untill they are used to you and their suroundings... Unfortunatly keepers try and switch them off live with in the first few weeks, instead of waiting untill they are completely comfortable. The key is to add in other baby fish, such as the oscars and give the cichla a "school" atmosphere that will encourage competition for food.


Getting cichla to eat other foods, or just eat ALOT is easily attained by bringing in competition.

 

[PeacockBass]

Just because your name is PeacockBass, does make u know evrything there is to know about peacock bass. How many is a lot?

It is never a good idea to generalize and try to impose your own experience on other people's way of doing things.

I've raised many thousands of PB from all sizes. From wigglers to monsters size of 20 inch or more. And not all of them behave the same way eventhough they come from the same body of water.

You have been lucky. Your presentation you say? Don't know about that...

My name may not be PeacockBass but I have news for you I know my Peacock Bass better than you do.

You say never starve a peacock bass? That's a nice concept, but that's what you might end up doing when your presentation does not work. I can tell you are a very skilled salesperson who thinks it's all about the presentation.

Few points I want to correct -

1- Many thousand? Lets see.. this implies over 5000 cichla... lets say you just had to buy HALF of them... at 10 bucks a pop (just to hit a low ball).... you will have spent over 20-25grand on just the cichla alone. Sorry, dont believe you. Also, You cant catch cichla in Bev Hills If you have had this many, I am sure you have a digital camera, and some photos, of your massive set ups that would make my 2000gallon look tinney. Also, raising cichla from a wiggler = nothing. That is the sure way of getting them onto pellets. THe younger, the better. What I will find impressive is a 20 inch temensis, just flown in, and you manage to get him on pellets via starvation.

2- Luck is not an issue with few hundered different individuals... As you said, Cichla are all Different!

3- Know your Peacocks better than me? LOL!! what is this? a beauty contest? Sorry dude, but these are fish... Although they are cichla, and cichla are Extremely smart... they are fish. not dogs.

 

[JuanTamad]

5,000 is a gross underestimation of Peacock Bass I've raised. I never said anything about buying them.

Secondly, who said I have them in Beverly Hills. I have property there which will become my residence in a few years. That's where I'm headed in a few days to start construction on my new Home and address.

I've raised all my Peacock Bass In Miami. I've never paid a single cent for any of my Peacocks. If you stop pretending to know my, and I mean my and only my peacock bass I might even overlook your condescending attitude.

I'll grant that you know more about your own few hundreds but do not ever assume that you know more about other people's fish.

When you can get of one these fellas to eat using your superior presentation, post a pic, I might even believe you.

You may try checking in on some of the sticky threads in this section, you might catch a glimpse of some of the parents of my fish.

 

[PeacockBass]

5,000 is a gross underestimation of Peacock Bass I've raised. I never said anything about buying them.

Secondly, who said I have them in Beverly Hills. I have property there which will become my residence in a few years. That's where I'm headed in a few days to start construction on my new Home and address.

I've raised all my Peacock Bass In Miami. I've never paid a single cent for any of my Peacocks. If you stop pretending to know my, and I mean my and only my peacock bass I might even overlook your condescending attitude.

I'll grant that you know more about your own few hundreds but do not ever assume that you know more about other people's fish.

When you can get of one these fellas to eat using your superior presentation post a pic, I might even believe you.

So, most of your thousand cichlas have been raised from eggs? How did you get these eggs kind sir?

Also, I will not play your childish games of "knowing other peoples cichla!" What does that even mean? LOL... Like I said before, these are not dogs. And you are clearly backing out of my questions and points.

BTW- That is a very nice cichla monoculus. I was noticing in your picture thread, the kind of care and handling you give these fish. Kinda rough with them huh? supporting a 12+ inch fish horizontally via its lower jaw? Using a boggy grip, which has a rather foul entrapment, that can and has caused harm to larger fish.

Starvation is a thing of the past. It is obsolete.


Fishing for cichla and actually keeping them are 2 different things. Stuffing feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.