If they're both from the same river (in both Peru and Ecuador), then they would be the same fish...
Matt
Matt
FESTAE Ecuador vs. Peru vs. Columbia
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Cavamart said he has F0 Festae from Columbia. He posted them in this thread...
columbian festae
Started by Jeb77‎, 04-03-2011 12:18 PM
Jeb was asking about them and only got one response.
Maybe they're from Columbia, MD... and not Colombia 
The type locality of festae is near Guyaquil (in Northern Ecuador). I'm not familiar enough with the watersheds in that area to know whether there is a natural barrier preventing the distribution of festae (north) into Southern Colombia. I'd bet that for reasons other than natural distribution of the fish that they haven't been exported from there..especially when they're readily available for export from Ecuador.
What would be interesting is to see pics of festae from different types of habitats (whether in one country or the other) to compare riverine ones to pond / slower water ones.
Matt
The type locality of festae is near Guyaquil (in Northern Ecuador). I'm not familiar enough with the watersheds in that area to know whether there is a natural barrier preventing the distribution of festae (north) into Southern Colombia. I'd bet that for reasons other than natural distribution of the fish that they haven't been exported from there..especially when they're readily available for export from Ecuador.
What would be interesting is to see pics of festae from different types of habitats (whether in one country or the other) to compare riverine ones to pond / slower water ones.
Matt
Great perspective from Wayne Leibel: http://www.fishchannel.com/freshwat...ies-info/cichlid/red-terror-and-green-cichlid
Ex-C. festae was "Originally imported in the mid-1970s from western Ecuador (trans-Andean Pacific slope)"
the first specimens imported were huge 10- to 14-inch monsters that sold for between $50 and $100 in 1970s dollars!
western Ecuador is a wet conglomerate of rice fields, streams, rivers and shallow lagoons.
They occupy caves in the soft mud riverbank where they remain for most of the day.
The fish can be caught by positioning a large hand net over the opening to the cave and poking the resident with a stick.
They feed primarily at night, and gut analysis reveals a diet of small fish (primarily Astyanax sp. tetras), insects, snails and plants, with "C." festae being the more herbivorous
They are continuous spawners, but exhibit a peak in reproductive activity coincident with the rainy season in January through May.
Wild red terrors are found to be reproductively competent and active at sizes as small as 5 inches, although they grow to average lengths of about 9 inches (maximum observed by Les was about 10.5 inches).
In the aquarium they can attain lengths of 16 inches or more — particularly older males.
I have yet to find anything scientific documenting actual festae habitat in Colombia...anyone have anything?
Matt
Ex-C. festae was "Originally imported in the mid-1970s from western Ecuador (trans-Andean Pacific slope)"
the first specimens imported were huge 10- to 14-inch monsters that sold for between $50 and $100 in 1970s dollars!
western Ecuador is a wet conglomerate of rice fields, streams, rivers and shallow lagoons.
They occupy caves in the soft mud riverbank where they remain for most of the day.
The fish can be caught by positioning a large hand net over the opening to the cave and poking the resident with a stick.
They feed primarily at night, and gut analysis reveals a diet of small fish (primarily Astyanax sp. tetras), insects, snails and plants, with "C." festae being the more herbivorous
They are continuous spawners, but exhibit a peak in reproductive activity coincident with the rainy season in January through May.
Wild red terrors are found to be reproductively competent and active at sizes as small as 5 inches, although they grow to average lengths of about 9 inches (maximum observed by Les was about 10.5 inches).
In the aquarium they can attain lengths of 16 inches or more — particularly older males.
I have yet to find anything scientific documenting actual festae habitat in Colombia...anyone have anything?
Matt
I was told by a hobbiest at the ACA Colombian festae are hard to find today due to pollution.
wow great info. featae was a cichlid i didnt kbow too much about till i read this thread. makes me wanna get another tank.
