angels in a 40b? filtration?

[est 032909]

hello all,

the allure of angels is becoming too hard to resist.....

yet with 2 established tanks to maintain and another 125 gallon show tank taking shape in the next month or two, i find myself able to do most of the research required for the next project months and months in advance.

with all that being said. i do have a 40b that i would love to utilize. the depth versus length proportions are pleasing to me (adversely i find a long tank and thin tank exceptional as well. explains the 125 and 33 gallon )

and the questions...

would a 40b have a less than desireable footprint with regard to 2 adult pairs and other fish of similar size?

and what filtration has worked well with these finned friends?

i have been planning on 2 fx5's on my 125 gallon along with a sump, mag 18, and spray bars for my oscar, jag, and some cichla mono.

a very different approach from what i have been reading in regard to angels.

the layout for the 40b would be standard branchy driftwood or manazita; planted with misc. flora. fluorite base and possible a small gravel or playsand above.

my idea on filtration (which i think i'm crazy for saying this) would be a plumbed fluval 404, all bio media and an ac110, stock media. ppl will think i'm raising corals...

lighting will be 36" aquaticlife, no top.

initial stock would be strictly plants along with a school of tetras of some kind. the future would hold angels, a juvi green sev, maybe a discus or two, and get loose with the corydoras.

i understand the nature of pairing. I would start with 8 juvi's, cross my fingers that i get two pairs, and would find homes for those who can't take commitment. black veils and koi

TL;DR

40b and filtration on that tank, or filtration in general

ANY THOUGHTS!

 

[B_IN_SD]

After breeding angels for years you might want only 1 pair in that size tank, ultimatly 1 of the males will beat down the other from the other pair. It will work untill they are close to spawning age and then maybe a little while longer depending on the fish. you may get lucky and have 2 pair co habitate a 40b but end the end 1 of the males will be dominant. A wet dry or canister with a 200 gph pump and spray bar would be a good option for filtration angels don't like so much current.

 

[Ghost9001]

Sounds good, only things I could see as a problem is if you are going planted severums are notorious plant destroyers. Also it may be risky mixing discus and angels. Everything else looks awesome.

 

[est 032909]

After breeding angels for years you might want only 1 pair in that size tank, ultimatly 1 of the males will beat down the other from the other pair. It will work untill they are close to spawning age and then maybe a little while longer depending on the fish. you may get lucky and have 2 pair co habitate a 40b but end the end 1 of the males will be dominant. A wet dry or canister with a 200 gph pump and spray bar would be a good option for filtration angels don't like so much current.

was browsing through and had basically came to the same conclusion. haha. i would prefer the variation of fauna in the tank anyways. one pair, i can start with 4? 6? to get there?

i do love a sump! but with the relationship in regard with my canister filter, plumbing placement, and water changes, pack that sucker up with bio and i'll clean it once a year?

would the 404 and ac 110 be too much? it's like a turnover of 20 times? the spraybar would be located at the top (obvs.) on the right hand side extended only half way from the back. the ac 110 would be placed in the middle.

 

[est 032909]

Sounds good, only things I could see as a problem is if you are going planted severums are notorious plant destroyers. Also it may be risky mixing discus and angels. Everything else looks awesome.

i have never heard of sevs being the godzilla of the plant world.

it's so funny this hobby, there's always a story behind the choices we make.

2 mondays ago, my building was getting the meters changed and no-one had told me. power outtages for some time. my 75 gallon with 1 oscar, 1 pleco, 2 firemouths, 1 green terror, 2 convicts, 2 sevs, 1 marbled pike, and 1 chinese algae eater had no power no over 8 hours. i lost everything except the oscar, pleco, and one sev.

the oscars aggression was displaced by the amount of little fights going on at one time. i would like to move the sev as one of the starters just to get him out of that tank. i kno he misses his little friend. i'm a 23 year old alpha that couldn't stop crying netting my buddies.

this angel tank is my second wind at this! after a week of pure depression, xbox, and carbohydrates.

i do appreciate the feedback!!

 

[TheOscarGuy]

I think a 110 is more than enough. Angels are also good eaters, and produce waste but no where comparable to the ones in your 125. Love your filtration on that tank by the way!
I also think that it might be too much current in there, if you decide to go with 2 filters.
You are also in Florida, where there are lots of good angel breeders. If you don't want to raise your fish, you can get adults at decent prices there. Shoot me a PM if interested and I will send you their contact info.
Footprint-wise someone has already answered the question: unless you wind up with all males, all females tank, 1 pair is what you should do. Unless you are OK with having dividers.

would the 404 and ac 110 be too much? it's like a turnover of 20 times? the spraybar would be located at the top (obvs.) on the right hand side extended only half way from the back. the ac 110 would be placed in the middle.