Need urgent help... really sick GT

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http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?299127-Flowerhorn-Mouth-Issue.&

3rd picture in that thread. That fish had swelling in the exact same area as your GT. As you can see, it didn't make it. It couldn't close its mouth(Ducklips usually cause fish to be unable to open their mouths or close their mouths) and started going downhill fast. I'm pretty sure your GT has duck lips. Get him out of that tank and into a hospital tank. Duck lips is highly contagious. Add LOTS of salt into the water and lower the temp to about 75degrees. You could try Methelene Blue or Maracyn/Macaryn 2(both of these methods, not either or).


Great info! I wasnt aware of Ducklips.
I read the link to the thread and the Flowerhon recovered completely. The picture in the first page is from another Flowerhorn.
Hopefully OP's Green terror will make it :D
 
Thanks but how the hell did he get it I do 40% water changes weekly and my water quality is good....
Also I thought higher temp is better?

Even though your water quality is good, the bacteria still live in the water. Higher temps is bad. Flowerhorns are usually kept in 82+degree water and they die within a few days of developing the disease. Lowering the temperature will slow down the reproduction rate of the bacteria.


Great info! I wasnt aware of Ducklips.
I read the link to the thread and the Flowerhon recovered completely. The picture in the first page is from another Flowerhorn.
Hopefully OP's Green terror will make it :D

Yeah I forgot to point that out. Thanks for that.
 
Duck lips aka mouth rot is Flexibacter columnaris (Flavobacterium columnare) which tends to thrive at higher temps. Best to treat with either Maracyn, or Kanamycin. (Seachem Kanaplex) I would not waste my time using metronidazole.

More info can be found here: http://www.flippersandfins.net/flexibacter.htm
 
Duck lips aka mouth rot is Flexibacter columnaris (Flavobacterium columnare) which tends to thrive at higher temps. Best to treat with either Maracyn, or Kanamycin. (Seachem Kanaplex) I would not waste my time using metronidazole.

More info can be found here: http://www.flippersandfins.net/flexibacter.htm

Thanks Now that I feel confident on what it is Im off to the store....
Whats the possibility of the gt surviving...
 
Suvival rate varies depending on whether the condition is chronic, or acute.


Below is what Dieter Untergasser says about it in his "Handbook of Fish Diseases"

There are two forms of the disease. During the chronic course the white areas gradually enlarge and the fish die many days later. In the acute form, the white spots spread out visbly within several hours. A population of 100 fish may all die within 3 days so treatment must be instituted quickly. Higher water temperatures accelerate the disease.
Treatment is possible but is only successfull over a long period when optimum maintenance have been established. Various methods have been used for the chronic and acute forms. The chronic form can be treated with:

1) Acriflavine: 1g to 1 L stock solution, then 1 ml/L to clean the tank and 5ml/L in a bare tank to treat the fish.
2) Chloramphenicol 40 mg per litre for 10-20 hours. Dissolve in in a small quantity of ethyl alcohol. The water will go turbid, use stong filtration and change the whole mess if it does.
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Personally I would stick with Kanamycin, or a combo of Maracyn & Maracyn 2. Just be aware that Maraycn combo could wipe out your bio filtration.
 
Suvival rate varies depending on whether the condition is chronic, or acute.


Below is what Dieter Untergasser says about it in his "Handbook of Fish Diseases"

There are two forms of the disease. During the chronic course the white areas gradually enlarge and the fish die many days later. In the acute form, the white spots spread out visbly within several hours. A population of 100 fish may all die within 3 days so treatment must be instituted quickly. Higher water temperatures accelerate the disease.
Treatment is possible but is only successfull over a long period when optimum maintenance have been established. Various methods have been used for the chronic and acute forms. The chronic form can be treated with:

1) Acriflavine: 1g to 1 L stock solution, then 1 ml/L to clean the tank and 5ml/L in a bare tank to treat the fish.
2) Chloramphenicol 40 mg per litre for 10-20 hours. Dissolve in in a small quantity of ethyl alcohol. The water will go turbid, use stong filtration and change the whole mess if it does.
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Personally I would stick with Kanamycin, or a combo of Maracyn & Maracyn 2. Just be aware that Maraycn combo could wipe out your bio filtration.

I have used maracyn before to treat columnaris and it worked great... But i have never heard of maracyn 2. Should I buy both and treat with both?
 
One treats gram negative bacteria, the other gram positive. Maracyn 2 will help prevent a secondary infection from setting in.
I would use both if it was my fish.
 
I moved him to a quarantine tank... I am treating with maracyn... He seems to be coming along now.. I will update tomorow
 
It's getting worse The left side of his face is completely swollen... He can't swim right anymore... I think I might lose him :cry:

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