PETA: Shark Attack Victims Deserve It - 5

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I never said anything about trying to determine if it will explode or not. Seems you and i are in agreement that a vehicle on fire merits removing a person from the location if they are unable to remove themselves.
Actually, that comment wasn't meant toward you, and yes, I agree with you the fire was merit. However, I'm not too sure if I'm going to remove the person or just call 911 and wait for professional/trained help
 
Please inform yourself further on both of these subjects:

Much animal testing that goes on is redundant, has no purpose and is wasting money. I've come to the conclusion that much of the animal testing is meant to bring in money for people involved in animal experiments. These funds could be helping people directly instead of lining animal experimenter's "pockets".

As for people need meat, there is plenty of evidence that people do not.
Animal research is very costly and tightly regulated. It is minimized as much as possible and each proposed experiment must be approved by the institutions IACUC committee. You are sorely mistaken if you think animal research is lining the experimenter's pockets. Animals being tested are kept in conditions designed to meet their needs and minimize stress. Analgesia and/or anesthesia must be used if possible for any painful procedures. The lighting must be a certain lux, the temperature cannot vary more than 2 degrees F, and so on. Many of the animals used in research have better living conditions than those who are pets.
 
Please inform yourself further on both of these subjects:

Much animal testing that goes on is redundant, has no purpose and is wasting money. I've come to the conclusion that much of the animal testing is meant to bring in money for people involved in animal experiments. These funds could be helping people directly instead of lining animal experimenter's "pockets".

As for people need meat, there is plenty of evidence that people do not.

Why would I need to inform myself further on a subject that I lived first hand. You obviously have never worked for a lab or done any drug research so your point is unfounded. Animal testing is not done just because. It is done since it is needed. Are tests redundant? Sure. Are they meant to be? Yup... You are dealing with living creatures. Just because I cure a rat in one study does not mean that that specific animal did not have a genetic defect or was predispositioned to accept the drugs better. So more testing is done. Animals are needed since a test tube can not show you how other items interfere with the drug. You can not run toxicology screens on a cell culture. That said animal testing is HIGHLY regulated which PETA and others seem to want to overlook. Millions are spent on a drug well before an animal is ever touched. You have to have some serious evidence that the drug will work. Dont like some of the testing requirements talk to the FDA. There is nothing that can be done about it. Though personally I woudl like to know what my drug does to the other aspects of my body so I am more then fine with the testing and wish it to continue. There is a reason that drugs are pretty safe and you will pop that pill without doing your own testing...But feel free to sign yourself up for some clinical trials. Feel free to allow yourself to be injected with a syringe not knowing if you are going to be infected with a drug or not. Fell free to allow them to inject you with other items that could cure you or kill you on the spot since they are unsure of the side affects. To take it another step feel free to turn to your loved one and say good bye since a drug is not on the market due to no ability to do proper testing.


As for humans needing meat. You can suppliment that protein with non meat sources sure but the human body was designed as a carnivore which is why we can not live off of water and lettuce... Whether you chose to supliment that with another source or not does not erase the fact that you ARE meant to eat meat.
 
Animal research is very costly and tightly regulated. It is minimized as much as possible and each proposed experiment must be approved by the institutions IACUC committee. You are sorely mistaken if you think animal research is lining the experimenter's pockets. Animals being tested are kept in conditions designed to meet their needs and minimize stress. Analgesia and/or anesthesia must be used if possible for any painful procedures. The lighting must be a certain lux, the temperature cannot vary more than 2 degrees F, and so on. Many of the animals used in research have better living conditions than those who are pets.

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I would ask for you to do a bit more investigation before you defend peta

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

That organization is nothing but a sham to rape and pillage money for selfish motives. Also run by a very crazy lady.

Oh boy....careful with that. That site is run by the center for consumer freedom. An organization that runs smear campaigns against unions, mothers against drug driving, humane society, etc. I'm not going to go into the legitimacy or lack of, for those organizations. BUT the center for consumer freedom is a lobby group. Their campaign "humanewatch" against the HSUS is funded by the agriculture industry. Which makes sense since pro-animal organizations tend to expose the atrocities in big ag...which they would love to have discredited or covered up.

And another note...PETA does kill animals...but if you do a little digging past the BS you will find its not as it seems. They stepped into operations where animals were being euthanized inhumanely and assisted in the establishment of more modern methods.

Its all politics. And PETA uses the shock value.

disclaimer* i don't support PETA
 
Ok, aldiaz and lab rat, lets talk. First regarding fuel tanks. You guys must be 14 or 15 to actually think fuel tanks explodes. They dont, sry to burst your bubble. ALdiaz, you listed two fuel tanks. One the bikes has already ruptured. Two, the cars is WELL away from the fire. Its not even close.

Cops didnt put the fire out. They lack the ability. IF you notice, they attempted and as expected failed. Two dry chem extinguishers on that grade of fire? Fail. Oh well at least it suppressed it until the real fire fighters can show up.

You listed spinal problems. ANY fire fighter or EMT knows that spinal precautions are not a concern in this instance. In an instance in which life is in immediate danger you do not do spinal precautions. Life>spine. So defending them with "but his spine" fails. The fact is the cop just stood around.

I never see a cop get into the car and attempt to move it. If he does, he fails. That is the dumbest thing Iv ever heard.

Ok, you win. I think what would be more interesting than arguing about this video is you telling us why you have so much animosity towards the police? (PS- I wrote "pigs" in my previous post as a joke and realize that was in bad taste).
 
Ok, you win. I think what would be more interesting than arguing about this video is you telling us why you have so much animosity towards the police? (PS- I wrote "pigs" in my previous post as a joke and realize that was in bad taste).

I have so much because they hide behind a badge and can literally get away with murder. They illegally search, beat unarmed elderly men, plant evidence and many more illegal acts and get away with it. If you question the methods used your anti cop. If that makes you anti cop then your damn right im anti cop. They get show after show painting them as super heros and all knowing gods, yet firefighters get 1 show and it paints us in such a bad light. How many big time cop movies are there? All painting them as these great heros, and they arnt.

Good read below...

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?413614-Why-I-was-gone.....&highlight=

Good many illegal acts where perpertrated by police on the dates discussed in that thread and thats prob only half. Thats what I just feel comfortable posting. There is far more
 
Animal research is very costly and tightly regulated. It is minimized as much as possible and each proposed experiment must be approved by the institutions IACUC committee. You are sorely mistaken if you think animal research is lining the experimenter's pockets. Animals being tested are kept in conditions designed to meet their needs and minimize stress. Analgesia and/or anesthesia must be used if possible for any painful procedures. The lighting must be a certain lux, the temperature cannot vary more than 2 degrees F, and so on. Many of the animals used in research have better living conditions than those who are pets.

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