RTC bouncing off the walls..literally
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I agree.
I also have a 300 and won't keep an rtc because I know I can't house it for life. Love the fish, but I know I can't provide enough space and food to properly keep one.
I really have no idea what your talking about. Im not guilt tripping anyone into anything..All i said was, everyones so content on pointing out the obvious, that no ones pointing out the answers i seek.
I enjoy the site, and the info i read and get. but it seems that whenever the magical 3 letters of RTC pop up, everyone jumps down that persons throat on tank size. I was FULLY AWARE of the massive 1inch / month growing ratio when i bought him. And how they quadrople in size in the first 1-2 months alone.
i was NOT aware of the mucous shedding. Im aware of gill curl, (which never heard having to do with a small tank) more of a bacteria bloom . Ive heard of him eating tank mates. He did eat all the plecos when he was 5 inches long.
I have noticed that his snout has 2 discolored yellow fading spots, that were never there before, which have me concerned a bit. I examine these guys. Im not your obliviously hobbiest. Unfortunately , I dont have teh housing for myself, to house a tank THAT large at the moment. ANd yes EVERY PERSON says, soon i will upgrade yada yada.
SO if its that obvious that tank size matters, you would figure every RTC would be aware of this. I understand tank size matters..but it just seems that when those letters are mentioned. ANY PROBLEMS posted, come back to "your tanks too small.
I feel i could post a question, asking why over night, my red tail got a top hat and cane, and started swimming around singing hello my darling, and someone will respond with , well thats due to your tank size.
The oscar could turn around in his old tank, he just couldnt lay front to back. he had no problems chasing feeders.
I guess im just going to quit now with this. I appreciate the advise you guys have given, and dont think i havent taken any of it into thought. I come here for a reason, and its to share my expierences with other hobbiests, and gain knowledge.
This is how every thread like this goes..the poster never gets what they want to here ..the Issue is the tank size and water parameters..fixing those two is how you fix your problem...But you continue to ignore it
you compared your tank and fish to posting on a car forum about a truck and radio the big difference here is ITS A LIVING ANIMAL and people care about them ..your truck will not suffer and die from not having a paint job.
Back before i knew anything about keeping fish..and kept fish i had a pare of gouramis in a over stocked 25 gallon ...every one was fine and ok accept them..they would tweek out and bash them self around the tank and roll how you are describing...sens i have learned that it was my lack of maintenance and over stocking causing bad water quality that made them act this way..they died.. and its safe to say they did not have a very good life.
These people are just trying to help you...and HAVE given you the answer ..you just don't want to listen to it.
good luck with your fish.
I think I tried to answer your question as well...You need to deal with the water ASAP and then think about tank size after things stablize. Test the water, if ammonia is high, do a water change and add something like Amquel. In the mean time, take a little bit of filter material from your old filter and put it in your new filter. Do daily water changes if necessary. They don't particularly like large water changes but they like ammonia/nitrite even less.
Don't feed. or just pellets to the cat moderately so the RTC doesn't go after the oscar.
You have a nice oscar, with a proper selection of a bottom dweller or two, your tank can really shine.
Don't feed. or just pellets to the cat moderately so the RTC doesn't go after the oscar.
You have a nice oscar, with a proper selection of a bottom dweller or two, your tank can really shine.
No he wasn't, he's probably been irreparably damaged already by your cruel insensitive practices. In England you could be arrested and charged with animal cruelty for keeping a fish in conditions like that.
Not just too small .... WAY TOO SMALL, A suitable tank would be over 10 TIMES LARGER ... That's 1000% bigger get it ?????
It either comes naturally to you (as I suspect) or your not trying hard enough.
So your not really looking for genuine help (ie: the truth) you just want to hear that your doing the right thing regardless ?
no filtration system will help given that bioload ...you would have to do 2 50% water changes a DAY to even come close ...
You refuse to accept the facts, this is not anyone's fault but your own.
No, this is not normal behavior but your fishes symptoms are common in severely stunted stressed fish in poor water conditions.
If you really want help then post your full water parameters
PH, KH, Temp ,Ammonia, Nitrite and Nitrate readings (yes ALL of them ...if you don't have the test kits BUY them), your full stock list, water change regime, filtration systems, feeding regime
AFAIAK is you cannot provide the above experienced keepers here would be unable to help you or your unfortunate fish.
Ok my 2 cents. Rtc all have weird behaviors. I could hand feed it and it would rub against my hand like a cat would your leg. That's totally weird for any fish. With that said he probably rubbed my hand to eye it up to see if it would fit in his mouth to eat like a snake ha.
Not to flame the tank size thing because it has been beat to death and then kicked a couple more times already. I got a 8" ID shark from a buddy who had it in a 10 gallon. It sits at the bottom of my tank and just sits there. If you don't know ID are constant swimmers my quality is perfect and tank is 9 times bigger then my buddies 10 gallon. But yet he still has yet to go grow or act like a normal ID. And I blame stunting to be honest.
Long store short I have seen a 14" rtc in a 20 gallon. Keep water quality up filtration and it will be fine. I do not recommend this or condone this but fish all come down to water quality. If that's good that's all you can do the rest is the fish.
Not to flame the tank size thing because it has been beat to death and then kicked a couple more times already. I got a 8" ID shark from a buddy who had it in a 10 gallon. It sits at the bottom of my tank and just sits there. If you don't know ID are constant swimmers my quality is perfect and tank is 9 times bigger then my buddies 10 gallon. But yet he still has yet to go grow or act like a normal ID. And I blame stunting to be honest.
Long store short I have seen a 14" rtc in a 20 gallon. Keep water quality up filtration and it will be fine. I do not recommend this or condone this but fish all come down to water quality. If that's good that's all you can do the rest is the fish.
Excellent Post Taksan, finally a voice of common sense & reason!
Fetto, Virtually evryone on here is telling you the tank is far too small & your water parameters are sh** or worse than that you dont even know them!!
1st things 1st get a bloody test kit & check your water parameters, stop feeding the fish & sort out the filtration.
Your RTC is displaying all the symptoms of being posioned by the water quality or lack there of, the tank size & stress!
If you come on here asking advice at least be prepaired to listen, especially to people with 10-15-20 yrs experience in keeping large/predatory/ catfish.
Good luck to you & your fish.
Fetto, Virtually evryone on here is telling you the tank is far too small & your water parameters are sh** or worse than that you dont even know them!!
1st things 1st get a bloody test kit & check your water parameters, stop feeding the fish & sort out the filtration.
Your RTC is displaying all the symptoms of being posioned by the water quality or lack there of, the tank size & stress!
If you come on here asking advice at least be prepaired to listen, especially to people with 10-15-20 yrs experience in keeping large/predatory/ catfish.
Good luck to you & your fish.
